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buxtehude

The speech was really really good. Congratulations to Michael Gove and the team.

Cameron's Q&A was very poor. He can give a speech, but he can't take questions.

The media will rip him apart when he gets out into the big wide world. Very worrying.

paul d s

As someone involved in a third world development NGO I thought Cameron's speech was excellent.

Property rights are fundamental to enterprise based solutions to poverty. Africa's problems don't require wristbands to make poverty history, they require a legal framework for capitalism to flourish.

As for Cameron being ripped apart in the Q & A, it looked non-spontaneous to me. As it now appears the Question Time heckling was organised, I can only assume the aggressive questioning was not motivated by goodwill.

James Maskell

What issues came up in the questions and how did DC respond? Did he come up with anything new? How was he received by the audience?

James Hellyer

Is "paul ds" really Paul Staines, aka Guid Fawkes? (hat tip to Wat Tykler)

I think we should be told!

Incidentally the organsiation of QT heckling has not been proven. That Will Aitken is a DD supporter has been shown, but it does not follow from there that he or his comments were "a plant".

Selsdon Man

Paul DS gives his email address as global-growth.org. That is my old friend Paul Staines' web site.

As for Guido Fawkes, only he can enlighten us once he has emerged, phoenix like, from the ashes of Saturday night's bonfires.

Yet another Anon

Eliminating poverty or ensuring that all people grow up in stable circumstances is impossible, the main thing that the state can do is to try not to make things worse and avoid attempts at social engineering through the Welfare System.

Selsdon Man

Anyone who wants a quick guide about how to help developing countries should read the books of Hernando De Soto.

Richard Carey

This is a deep and substantial speech from DC, showing not just a rhetoric but an approach to economic policy that puts a commitment to social justice at its heart.

In view of the previous opinions passed in comments on this blog, a word on policy development. Before anyone jumps on me; I said it is an approach to economic policy. I do believe that it is only right that the details of policy should be decided when the full policy-making apparatus of the CRD and of the wider Party (CPF, Associations, the 1922 etc.) can be brought to bear on the real issues involved. If anyone cares to respond that DC has not resolved detailed policy issues, then perhaps they should be glad that he has not done so through himself and his campaign team alone in the glare of a leadership contest.

Yet another Anon

Of course strict punishments for those who transgress the law including torture and execution, increases in resources for the police and across the world open markets and military action against tyrants such as the regime change in Iraq of course can make a difference, the point is though that there will always be imperfect parents, imperfect employers and it is impossible for the state to micro-manage such things.

Yet another Anon

Abolishing all state subsidies for agriculture and industry and adopting Free Trade is the best solution towards International Development, and one way of achieving this would be to leave Fortress Europe.

Selsdon Man

Trade not aid! Where is Ragnar Danneskjold when we need him?

Derek

If there are any doubts about DCs ability to respond to close questioning, these can be resolved when we see him interviewed by Jonathan Dimbleby, and then by Jeremy Paxman. An essential rite of passage for any would-be leader of the party in this day and age.

loyal_tory

I agree with Derek. If you can't take the heat on Paxman then leader of HM Opposition is the wrong job for you.

Incidentally, the pre-Cameron speech spin seems to be a little different from the actual speech itself. Is this a decision to change tactics or a change of substance, poor media spin, or a case of telling the media one thing and a CPS audience another? Does anyone know?

loyal_tory

Sorry that should read from Paxman on Newsnight. On the CPS speech, The Independent was told that excessive spending was one of the five barriers to "the creation of wealth." In the speech that became "Labour's tax-and-spend." Vaguness returned on tax policy, however. With taxes "on jobs and wealth creation" to be reduced--presumably in line with the "sharing the proceeds of growth" formula outlined previously. Perhaps we should ask what that means at the hustings. The implication on Question Time was that Cameron meant business, but not personal taxation.

pete

What no comments!? ITN reveals that the Times headline tomorow is that Davies has surged ahead, and the betting markets have moved from 14:1 to 2.5:1 in 20 minutes.
Is this a freak poll, a reflection that opionion outside the Notting Hill beltway is not in line with the media line, or another dramitic change in events? Answers on a blog please.

Derek

The idea of registering property rights sounds a good idea, but the system would have to be approved in each country, and part of the problem is probably due to a lack of literacy among poor property owners. It sounds like a complex process to set up.

Tom Ainsworth

Pete,
the betting does seem to have moved dramatically. I'm as much at a loss as to why as you are...

Cllr Graham Smith

IMHO we should all be saying a really big thank you to Tim Montgomerie. He has hugely influenced the Conservative Party agenda over the past several years (indeed, he still does) in order to promote social justice. Well done Tim!

Editor

That's kind Graham but the real hero of the social justice movement has been my boss at the Centre for Social Justice - IDS.

Whatever we may think of his merits and demerits as party leader he has been a faithful and heartfelt champion for the hard-pressed people and communities he focused on as leader.

Some politicians can make more of an impact out of leadership positions. If the party stays on the one nation course IDS' long-term impact on the Tory mission will be enormous.

wasp

This was very good from Cameron much more considered and in depth.

I hope he makes the most of this at the hustings to come.

Hank J Bloodsucker III

Hey what's all this paintywaist liberal commie-talk about social justice? Socialist injustice is what I call it! And a curb on growth! Shame on you Mr Editor!

Gareth

The phrase 'social justice' in the hands of IDS & Co. is really a return to the values of Victorian charity and the deserving and underserving poor. It's an agenda driven by the evangelical religious right and largely promotes the privatisation of vital public services and their replacement by religious charities. To characterise this agenda as 'one nation' is to mock true one nation tories like Iain MacLeod.

EU Serf

I am very happy that DC seems to have heard about De Soto.

I second Selsdon Man's recommendation to read those books.

Jack Stone

The party will only appeal to voters beyond its core vote when it convinces people it as put the past behind it and become more modern and in tune with todays Britain.
I am afriad that David Davis with his tax cuts and Euro referendums just looks terribly old fashioned and if its talking to a Britain of the nineteen eighties not the twenty first century and you just can`t see his message appealing to anyone but the most loyal Conservative.
David Cameron in contrast is looking new, fresh and modern and capable of making the party look like its talking about and living in todays Britain. The polls and evidence of media interviews show that his message is appealing to not only to floating voters but those that regularly vote for other parties.
You know at the end of the day the choice in this election is about what the members want.
Do they want to wake up yet again on the friday after the next election and feel yet again that gut wretching feeling of defeat that the thought Labour are once again running the country they love or feeling that ecsastic feeling that comes with victory.

Ian Sider

Hey Gareth, do you have any evidence for your assertions? Have you, for instance, read 'There Is Such As Thing As Society?' Have you familiarised yourself with concepts such as Oliver Letwin's 'conveyor belt to crime'? How can you simultaneously privatise a public service and replace it with a charity? Even if such a thing were possible, have you seen a single utterance from 'IDS and co' that might suggest that this is what they want to do?

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