Alan Duncan MP and Andrew Robathan MP with a crowd of young Cameron supporters.
This first Hustings Report is written by Cllr Graham Smith - for which many thanks to him. Graham attended the meeting as a Cameron supporter. As the other Hustings Reports come in over the next couple of weeks they'll be from DC and DD supporters - plus a few non-aligned folk. Radio 4's World At One reckoned DD did best at the meeting - something Graham concedes. Graham's words are posted below...
"It’s twenty to eleven on a chilly November Monday morning and the television cameras swing slowly round, following the car as it stops next to a large group of tee-shirted twenty-somethings who are carrying placards bearing the familiar “Change to win – win for Britain” logos that have come to symbolise the Cameron Campaign.
“Thank you so much – it’s such an encouragement to see so many new faces…” Then turning to the television cameras “yes, it’s good to be here, this is real Gary Lineker country isn’t it?”
Twenty minutes come and go, as do a number of luxury cars that repeatedly raise the hopes of the increasingly frozen camera crews and then David Davis hoves into view, striding purposefully towards the cameras.
“Sorry, no time for questions.” Davis rushes past the numerous placards held aloft by the Cameron Campaign crowd into the building and up to a private suite on the third floor.
Entering the Great Hall in Leicester City Football Club’s new Filbert Way stadium a little while later, the two Davids were greeted by something short of 300 mostly retired people who had scattered themselves around the rows of chairs that stretched back from a raised platform emblazoned with the message “Today’s Britain – Tomorrow’s Conservatives.”
David Davis spoke first:
“Can I apologise for keeping you waiting?” he asked, “there were 30 miles of traffic jams for which I blame the Government.” A short burst of embarrassed laughter followed. Some would say Mr Davis is making a bit of a habit of this arriving late bit, David Cameron having arrived in Leicester in sufficient time to visit Lancaster Boys School and Art College before the morning’s hustings.
Switching to his prepared remarks, Davis then made a prophetic remark “I want the next Prime Minister to be called David,” he said “and I don’t mean David Blunkett.” More embarrassed laughter as the more politically aware amongst the audience began to wonder if Mr Davis had a pony on Miliband to success Blair (political betting now has David Miliband’s odds down to 12/1).
Davis hates the massed ranks of Labour MPs and it shows. He claimed credit for various injuries inflicted on the Labour Government although, in a moment of chivalry, he did say that Mr Blunkett deserved most of the credit for removing himself from his most recent ministerial post.
David Cameron's turn followed. Casting aside his notes, he stepped out from behind the rostrum to set out his message of hope, optimism and progress, earning a much-deserved standing ovation from sections of the audience. The first key difference emerged here as David Cameron said how sick people were of unnecessary confrontation – Punch and Judy Show politics, he called it. “If the Government bring forward something sensible, as they have done with much of the recent Terrorism Bill, then it must be supported,” he said. “There were parts of that bill – for example the 90-day detention – that were quite wrong, and we acted correctly in opposing that particular measure.”
Questions from the audience followed. I was listening to David Cameron saying “young people are sick of the Punch and Judy show at Westminster and desperately want to see politicians who really care and are prepared to take difficult decisions about the things that matter to them” for the third time and the fixed smile return to David Davis’s lips for the umpteenth time: “David Cameron is right – we have to stand up for all the people.” <grin> “David Cameron is right – we have to explain our principles and make them relevant for today.” <grin> “David Cameron is right…” <grin> and beginning to think the questions had been closely vetted to keep to safe subjects when the words of Roger Helmer MEP echoed around the hall, acting like a hot knife to butter, bringing sharply into focus the difference between the two Davids:
“Do candidates agree that the European Democrat Group is a cosmetic fiction that doesn’t exist in practice and that Conservative MEPs need to leave the EPP in order to form alliances with other like-minded MEPs?”
David Cameron’s immediate response emphasised the need for the Conservative Party to have a consistent message. “I was in the Research Department when we joined the EPP,” he began. “I didn’t agree with the decision then and I don’t now. The EPP believes in a federal Europe and campaigned for the European Constitution. Membership of the EPP is incompatible with our message about Europe being a free trading arrangement of sovereign states and our MEPs should not be part of it.”
David Davis then gave the machine politician’s answer. “The Party Chairman,” he said, “wrote to MEPs asking them to agree to remain members of the EPP for the next four years and it would be wrong to change this.”
As folk were leaving it was apparent that Davis had made many converts, this audience certainly seemed to warm to his “yah boo” style of politics that implies Blair is always wrong and must be continuously opposed. Whatever people may think about his ability to attract swing voters, there is no doubt that this man knows just the buttons to press to make the blue-rinse brigade’s legs tremble with excitement.
Said goodbye to the David Davis support team as he was packing away large amounts of literature that had been left on his table. “Will I see you tonight at Birmingham?” he asked. “No.” I replied, “It seems David Cameron has more than enough supporters to host a different team at each venue…”"
Cllr Graham Smith first campaigned in the 1970 General Election when he was 16 years old, fighting to free the airwaves from the tyranny of Tony Benn’s needle time. An active Christian, he has been spent much of his life helping people find true freedom. Graham is a passionate libertarian and a keen supporter of David Cameron.
Graham is a passionate libertarian and a keen supporter of David Cameron.
What an odd pairing - passionate libertarianism with the managerialist nanny state meddling of 'phonics' Cameron...
Posted by: Andrew | 14 November 2005 at 21:43
"There is no doubt that this man knows just the buttons to press to make the blue-rinse brigade’s legs tremble with excitement."
I wonder what Feminist Fulford will have to say about this delightful statement. Seeing as it's from a Cameronite, not a lot I imagine ;-)
Posted by: Daniel Vince-Archer | 14 November 2005 at 21:57
Since both the BBC and Cllr Smith agree that DD 'won' this hustings, how come Cllr Smith makes DD sound so useless and Cameron so wonderful? "Casting aside his notes, he stepped out from behind the rostrum to set out his message of hope, optimism and progress, earning a much-deserved standing ovation from sections of the audience." Yuk.
Cllr Smith doesn't want 'punch and judy' politics and yet he has just shown he is utterly incapable of giving a balanced report. Imagine reading a football report that went like this: "Chelsea were rubbish, boring, old-fashioned, untalented - and oh, yes, they won 2:0."
I hope future reporters from whichever camp will give a more balanced view, if they are writing as reporters. Still, useful to see how Cameron supporters delude themselves, making their man sound like a winner even when they admit he lost.
Posted by: buxtehude | 14 November 2005 at 22:19
"Still, useful to see how Cameron supporters delude themselves, making their man sound like a winner even when they admit he lost."
Remind you of anybody? Our beloved Prime Minister perhaps? I suppose we'd better get used to it, seeing as it's what we're going to be forced to endure for the next few years until Gordon Brown makes mincemeat out of SuperCam at the next election. Unless, of course, the party comes to its senses as makes David Davis leader.
Posted by: Daniel Vince-Archer | 14 November 2005 at 22:27
It's a wonder anyone would bother volunteering to prepare a report like this on their own time when this is the thanks you get for it. Cllr Graham is entitled to his views as are you, buxtehude.
I haven't seen the BBC editorialising on the hustings - I have seen them airing clips of members emerging from the hall who said various things about both candidates - without disclosure as to whether or not they were disposed to one or the other prior to the gathering, but those are two different things.
The Times (Pravda as the Davisites here like to call it) has written that Cameron did better at this one.
All this suggests is that there are views out there to satisfy any appetite.
Posted by: Alastair Matlock | 14 November 2005 at 22:28
Well said, Alastair.
One thing that Graham's post and photo did make clear is that Cameron's campaign is very organised. This was the first hustings. There was going to be lots of media interest. DC had lots of placard-weaving young supporters. DD had one t-shirted supporter.
Posted by: Editor | 14 November 2005 at 22:31
I tried to be honest in my assessment, as I hope the candidates were in what they said.
It seemed to me there were just the two points of difference - other people may have picked up on more - one being DC's abhorrence of confrontational politics for the sake of it, compared with DD's more [ahem] assertive approach that apparently requires everything the Government proposes to be challenged regardless of merit. The other being whether MEPs should strive to support the Conservative Party agenda or continue being part of a political grouping that is actively working against the Party's policies on Europe.
There is no doubt that a substantial proportion of the audience were elderly and (judging from the age and model of cars in the car park) reasonably well-off. I suspect most of these people will continue to vote Conservative and do their bit regardless of which candidate emerges as our next Party Leader (as will I - indeed I remain of the opinion that any of the five potential candidates could have made a great leader).
Unfortunately David Cameron spent a lot of time talking about some of the things that matter to young people and working families. There weren't too many people in either of these categories at this morning's meeting and I suspect that this evening's report will reveal much stronger support for David Cameron amongst people who have not voted Conservative for the last 40+ years. But we'll have to wait and see...
Posted by: Cllr Graham Smith | 14 November 2005 at 23:02
I'm told the reaction from the BBC Focus Group in Solihull this evening was as follows:
The Davis supporter switched to Cameron.
The neutral backed Cameron after just 10 minutes.
The Cameron supporter stuck with Cameron.
Posted by: Cllr Iain Lindley | 14 November 2005 at 23:05
I've seen the same, Cllr Lindley.
Posted by: Alastair Matlock | 14 November 2005 at 23:15
"Filbert Way stadium"? The Walkers Stadium. Or Crisp Bowl, if you prefer.
Posted by: Blimpish | 14 November 2005 at 23:59
Davis is making his pitch to Tory members.
Cameron is aiming at a wider audience. Cameron is ahead with members by 2/1.
What does this tell us?
Cameron is confident of winning the contest and is avoiding a future backlash against half-baked policy promises.
Hardline Tories are canny enough to swallow their prejudices and go with a winner.
Posted by: john Skinner | 15 November 2005 at 00:18
"It's a wonder anyone would bother volunteering to prepare a report like this on their own time when this is the thanks you get for it. Cllr Graham is entitled to his views as are you, buxtehude."
It's not a wonder at all when someone clearly have an axe to grind! Knocking copy is easy to come by. As you know, I supply it myself.
Posted by: buxtehude | 15 November 2005 at 07:42
Bux
Read the Times, Telegraph, Guardian & Independent reviews - all have the same flavour as this report: DD late (again!), DD stuck to notes/prepared text, DD hit right core vote policies; DD attractive to older members, DD finished strongly but DC edged it.
The councillor is clear about his prerences and expect same when a DD supporter reports but looking at other sources it looks a fair reflection of the hustings .
Posted by: Ted | 15 November 2005 at 08:25
Reading today's newspaper reports of yesterday's event, it seems my report was more than fair to the Davis team.
Tania Branigan writes in The Guardian:
"The exclusive blame for David being late rests with the Labour government and its transport polices. Under a Davis-led government, transport will be a high priority and no one will be late," said his campaign manager, Andrew Mitchell MP.
What a happy bedtime story "and because of what the nice man did, no-one was ever late again."
Brendan Carlin picked up on the same point in today's Telegraph:
Mr Davis, who was also late for the recording of his BBC2 Question Time debate with Mr Cameron this month, walked briskly into the stadium reception area and said: "I am afraid the one-way system defeated us". Greeting him was a lone cheerleader, 54-year-old Anne Bond, heavily outnumbered by a dozen young "Cameroons" from Leicester and Nottingham Student Tory Association."
Watching David Davis' broad smile turn into a fixed grin as he first spotted the solitary tee shirt and then saw who was wearing it was quite revealing. From where I was standing I could almost imagine him hissing "couldn’t you do better than that?" under his breath to David Canzini, who has recently joined the Davis payroll following his departure from Central Office earlier this year.
Posted by: Cllr Graham Smith | 15 November 2005 at 08:45
Also in Telegraph
"Yesterday, however, a gremlin had evidently infiltrated the machinery. "I received a text message just after lunch from the DD campaign saying how well he had done at the Leicester hustings," one party member tells me. "But then I got it again. And again. It came 20 times over. I'd already voted, otherwise it might have provoked me to withhold my support."
Not sure DD proclaiming "I won I won" when most commentators thought he hadn't is really effective campaigning...
Posted by: Ted | 15 November 2005 at 09:13
You know the media bias just gets worse. Even if I wasn't a Davis supporter I'd become one just because they are pushing Cameron down our throats. You have to stop and think about what their agenda really is.
Posted by: Barbara Villiers | 15 November 2005 at 09:31
Ted - not only is it not effective campaigning, it's very divisive and is going to lead to ill feeling within the party after the election. The last thing this party needs is a quarter of it being disgruntled and whispering 'DD won, DD was better, DC is all about one speech'. I'm starting to think those Paxman quotes were closer to the truth than anyone here might like to think. Let's hope he stops the 'punch and judy' campaigning and sticks to explaining his plans for the future for the sake of the party.
Posted by: hayek's grandad | 15 November 2005 at 09:36
Cllr Smith, this is silly. The two bits you quote from newspapers don;t show your fairness at all! I have read the DT piece three times now and can't find a word to justify your reading.
But hold on - didn't the Ed introduce your report as saying you yourself concede that DD "did best"? Ah yes, scroll back, and you'll find it! So what happened?
Posted by: buxtehude | 15 November 2005 at 09:38
Well, it has been said the British people love the underdog, so a last-minute flurry of support for Davis is only to be expected.
Posted by: Cllr Graham Smith | 15 November 2005 at 09:43
It would be interesting to have a Cameron supporter and a Davis supporter blogging from the same meeting.
Posted by: wasp | 15 November 2005 at 09:55
"Even if I wasn't a Davis supporter"
Barbara, I think Davis would be doing slightly better if you weren't.
Posted by: modern conservative | 15 November 2005 at 09:58
'Not sure DD proclaiming "I won I won" when most commentators thought he hadn't is really effective campaigning...'
Couldn't agree more Ted. It smacks of desperation and has all the hallmarks of Andrew Mitchell or Derek Conway's misreading of events (a la the conference set-piece went down well).
Posted by: Barry Graham | 15 November 2005 at 10:14
That may happen at a couple of hustings wasp but I need more reporters. I still don't have anyone to cover the Welsh event!
Posted by: Editor | 15 November 2005 at 10:33
Leeds Uni are sending a balanced group to the York event today... well, 2-1 Davis anyway with one wavering (towards Davis).
And no wonder Cameron is on time, he is flying everywhere. He will, I understand, be flying from Newcastle to York today.
At least when the swooning old blue-rinse biddies faint over Davis they can fall into Cameron's sizeable carbon footprint!
Also, I think Cllr Graham wrote a superb report. Congratulations! I especially enjoyed the bits where I got so infuriated I wanted to hit him for being so biased against my David! It was then that I realised that, actually, this is coded break from the Cameron ranks. This man WANTS Punch and Judy politics! Look at report he wrote! Look at the comments it recieved!
A further point, Davis led the attempt to work with Labour over the Terrorism bill whilst vigorously opposing the 90 day detention. That is an example of the politics I want. Principled enough to work together and principled enough to fight against.
Cameron is welcome to jump on that bandwagon, but not if he is going to lose his footing, stumble and smack his jaw on the chassis.
We need Punch and Judy politics like we've never needed it before.
Basher's up for the fight but I dont think Cameron is.
Posted by: Al G | 15 November 2005 at 11:38
Thank you Al G. Given the low and somewhat elderly turnout in Leicester I wanted to achieve two things:
1. To stimulate debate on this website.
2. To encourage more people to attend the hustings.
I have achieved the first, let's see whether that contibutes towards success on the second objective also.
Posted by: Cllr Graham Smith | 15 November 2005 at 12:09