Conservative Home's debate blogs

Advertising

  • DVD rental
  • Conservative Books
My Photo

Conservative blogs

Blog powered by Typepad

  • Tracker 2
  • Extreme Tracker

« Andrew Lansley confirms he won't be standing | Main | Caption competition (4) »

Comments

Daniel Vince-Archer

Another point - the next leader will need to show he/she can keep the party united rather than dividing it by trashing the brand (hypocritically!) and turning our party into a cheap, flimsy knock-off of the original plastic party, New Labour.

Midnight Blue

The point I was making is that there have been some overly harsh comments used about a man who is the first in YEARS to get the party good press, the first in YEARS to generate good vibes from a party conference and the first in YEARS to look like a winner, I just don't believe that DC would turn the party into "diet New Labour" in terms of policy but if he can replicate their electoral success (which I believe he could) then surely it's a possibility worth exploring after YEARS of monotone right wing leaders talking only to us

James Hellyer

who is the first in YEARS to get the party good press

That's untrue.

the first in YEARS to generate good vibes from a party conference

So's that.

and the first in YEARS to look like a winner

And so's that.

Have you anything other than wild hyperbole?

Midnight Blue

I have a desire to see the party I believe in win again James, the response to DC amongst people I know has been incredible, they look at him like they have looked at no other Conservative for as long as I can remember, none of them have ever voted Conservative. In the end - that is what matters.

I also have the intention not to be offensive to people whose opinions don't tally exactly with mine!

Incidentally who else do you think has looked like a winner? I can't actually think of any names....

Mark Fulford

Let me guess... Dr Fox?

James Hellyer

the response to DC amongst people I know has been incredible.

And I think the point is that some of us have noted a different reaction from people we know - Conservative and non-Conservative - that was less than incredible.

Incidentally who else do you think has looked like a winner? I can't actually think of any names....

Michael Howard - particularly in the aftermath of his accession to the leadership. That atmosphere was still there at his first Conference. The party had unity, discipline and a sense of purpose.

And yes, I think Dr Fox looks like one now. Cameron doesn't yet because there's no substance to him at all.

John G

I have a desire to see this party win again too. And regardless of whether Cameron is modelling himself on Blair, he reminds people of Blair. Enough journalists recognise that, sometimes meaning it as a compliment. But Blair is now very unpopular. So it doesn't matter if Cameron lies or not - he reminds someone of a vacuous liar (mainly through his own vacuousness) and so would probably tumble to a heavy defeat.

Moreover, he is utterly untested. Are you telling me that 6 months in a Shadow Education brief that has been totally dominated by a leadership contest are nearly enough to show a man has the experience to make the tough, alienating decisions that a party leader must now make? Especially without ANYONE experienced around him?

I saw Cameron's launch. I saw Cameron's speech. I know he is committed to a Conservative party with a foreign policy encompassing more than Zimbabwe and Gibraltar. Good. But he hasn't told us how he'll deliver it. The soundbites are good but, as the Editor says, where is the substance? For a leadership contest that started so well, with sensible input from the likes of Willetts, I'm disappointed that the last 3 months look like they'll be spent without discussing any of the issues that we should be discussing, and will instead focus on the personal charm of one man.

The comments to this entry are closed.

About Conservative Home

Subscribe

  • Conservative Home's
    free eMailing List
    Enter your name and email address below:
    Name:
    Email:
    Subscribe    
    Unsubscribe