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AnotherNick

"The cost of a flag is under £50 according to the first google search I did. This is an entirely bogus point"

Is 'bogus' word of the day?

Presumably that assumes every school has a flag pole of some nature to start with. Multiply that by the number of schools in the UK. Even if we just look at £50 per school - it could be better spent & you know Labour will find a way to maximise the cost when they talk about it.

But also take a look at Wales - Plaid Cymru are in chaos at the moment, why give them a reason to start up the 'were the last colony' argument.

In Australia there is only one nation, here there are 4, it is far less devisive in Australia.

Finally, what is it going to practically achieve?

It's a nice, but frankly barmy idea and as a result of it and the speech Fox made I no longer see him as a possible 2nd choice for me. He rallied the troops brilliantly, but unlike Cameron he didn't enthuse people beyond the party.

James Hellyer

Is Liam Fox not in favour of having school buildings owned by the private sector?

How does advocating that state owned and run buildings fly the flag imply that you don't believe in the private sector?

Is 'bogus' word of the day?

Where your "cost" argument is concerned, yes.

But also take a look at Wales - Plaid Cymru are in chaos at the moment, why give them a reason to start up the 'were the last colony' argument.

Plaid are in trouble because Labour are in government. They always do badly then. And they'd be undercut, if they tried that line, by making it clear that Welsh schools should also fly the Welsh flag.

In Australia there is only one nation, here there are 4, it is far less devisive in Australia.

Australian schools happily flew the national flag, and the Aboriginal flag if they wished. Australia has a very diverse population, but has successfully constructed a sense of nationhood. We have four nations with an overarching identity. We also need to foster that sense of nationhood, as people from all parts of the political spectrum increasingly agree.

Finally, what is it going to practically achieve?

Utilising the national symbol at schools is one way of helping create that sense of national identity.

James Hellyer

He rallied the troops brilliantly, but unlike Cameron he didn't enthuse people beyond the party.

ITN, The Sun and others disagree.

James Maskell

A comment on the flag debate, I remember down here in Margate trouble being kicked up when our Council (Thanet District Council) was told that it could no longer have the Union flag above its offices. Considering that we are forced to accept more children in care then anywhere else, despite being the second most deprived part of the South-East (I still cant work out which is worse than Thanet) and having to cope with a lack in investment and a relatively weak economy, forcing us to have to take down a flag appears just a little petty.

Ill soon post my full views on Fox but his flag thing I quite like. Nice and simple, relatively inexpensive and a symbol for Britain.

AnotherNick

The papers were rather keen on Cameron too. I seem to remember "Cam on you blues" in the Sun being read by the chap next to me on the train.

James Hellyer

But I don't see you trying to claim he was poorly received...

AnotherNick

James,

Is there anything you don't argue? (well excluding everything Liam Fox says obviously).

James Hellyer

You could just give in.

AnotherNick

haha - good reply!
Well I won't give in, but I think everyone on this blog knows each of our views on Liam Fox and flags so probably better tie this one up. Just for the record though James, while we may disagree I do have respect for the political knowledge you use to back everything up with.

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