(Or lose?). No prize, just for fun.
Tie-breaker question: How many council seats will Labour win/ lose?
We'll average your predictions - as we've done in previous years - to make a 10pm 'wisdom of the crowds' prediction.
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177 Tory gains
114 Labour loses
Posted by: bluepatriot | May 01, 2008 at 16:47
Con 42% +121
Lab 27/28% -103
LD 23% -47
Oths 7% +29
Posted by: Joe James Broughton | May 01, 2008 at 16:50
150 Tory gains
100 Lab losses
45 LD losses
Posted by: Alan S | May 01, 2008 at 16:51
Con gain: 197
Lab loses: 185
Posted by: Orlando | May 01, 2008 at 16:54
Tory gain 184
Posted by: Chad Noble | May 01, 2008 at 16:55
Conservative win 182
Labour lose 142
Posted by: NorthernEconomist | May 01, 2008 at 16:56
+85 conservative
-50 labour
Posted by: Mark | May 01, 2008 at 16:57
Conservative gain: 218 (here's hoping)
Labour lose: 182
Posted by: EML | May 01, 2008 at 16:58
Conservative gain 285
Labour lose 300
Posted by: James Burdett | May 01, 2008 at 17:01
Wild stab!
208 seats gained for us
176 losses for labour
Posted by: MrB | May 01, 2008 at 17:04
That's brave James! Let's hope you're right!
Posted by: MrB | May 01, 2008 at 17:06
Conservative gain: 212
Labour loss: 155
and...
Lib Dem loss: 39
Posted by: David Jones | May 01, 2008 at 17:10
My prediction is:
181 Conservative gains.
150 Labour losses.
Posted by: Keir Gravil | May 01, 2008 at 17:12
152 Con gains
167 Lab Losses
Posted by: Will Stobart | May 01, 2008 at 17:13
Labour lose 160
We gain 198
Are the BBC steaming the footage live off of their website this evening? The TV is in a different room to the computer and I don't really want to keep running to and fro.
Posted by: Richard | May 01, 2008 at 17:15
Yes Richard, I think they're streaming it live online :)
Posted by: Will Stobart | May 01, 2008 at 17:23
Con Gain 230
Lab loss 205
Posted by: R Simpson | May 01, 2008 at 17:23
I won't try to guess a figure but I'm hoping there will be a substantial cull of all those intellectual pigmies and wannabe politicians who run our local politics into ruin.
If James Burdett is right it will be a marvellous night.
Posted by: Tony Makara | May 01, 2008 at 17:39
Conservative win 188
Labour lose 169
Posted by: Robbie | May 01, 2008 at 17:41
Con gain 323
Labour lose 171
Posted by: The Daily Pundit | May 01, 2008 at 17:42
No prize??? Not even a mug?
Well in for a penny. I'll top James Burdett.Tories to gain 290 Labour to lose 320 plus.
Posted by: Malcolm Dunn | May 01, 2008 at 17:44
Tories to gain 260.
Labour to lose 160
Posted by: Craig Morrison | May 01, 2008 at 17:52
I don't really want to guess the numbers. As long as we start to get the momentum to change the goverment in the next election. But I hope I am elected as a Conservative in the Owton Ward in Hartlepool.
Posted by: Gary | May 01, 2008 at 17:54
Conservative gain 221
Labour lose 165
Posted by: BW | May 01, 2008 at 18:07
369 con gains
351 lab losses
Posted by: Daily Referendum | May 01, 2008 at 18:10
I am going to upset people here!
The LibDems were on Iraq War high last time...many of those seats will go back to Labour.
These seats are in Labour heartland areas generally- the Conservatives cannot win many more and we run some councils there now....and not all councils are successful.
Prediction- loses for LibDems- substantial(80 losses net).
Minor overlall losses for Labour (20 net)
Conservatives - about 90 net gains.
Posted by: eugene | May 01, 2008 at 18:11
Con gains: 275
Lab loss: 230
Posted by: John Reeks | May 01, 2008 at 18:19
Con loss 100
Lab loss 130
Lib Dem gain 230
Posted by: Hug a Druggie | May 01, 2008 at 18:29
labour -25
con +75
We're at too high a base and they are at too low a base for a massacre. Libs will be interesting to watch.
Posted by: StevenAdams | May 01, 2008 at 18:29
Con gain 220
Labour loss 250
I think Labour's going to get a hiding from everybody this time, even the LibDems, and I don't think we are quite so automatically the people to go for as some of the other estimates above suggest...
Posted by: Andrew Lilico | May 01, 2008 at 18:30
Cons Gain 150,
Lab lose 120
Posted by: Stephen Spillane | May 01, 2008 at 18:32
Incidentally, I assume that Labour is going to come third in vote share by some margin? Anyone take a different view?
Posted by: Andrew Lilico | May 01, 2008 at 18:35
Con +89
Lab -101
Posted by: Sammy Finn | May 01, 2008 at 18:46
How low could Labour's national share of the vote go? Is 22% out of the question? How low would it need to go to trigger an immediate crisis in the Labour Party?
Posted by: Andrew Lilico | May 01, 2008 at 18:56
Tories to gain 205, Libs to lose 47, Lab to lose 139.
Both Libs and Labour to be buffeted by the fallout. There will also be one or two milestone results of the Tories (e.g surprise council gains or new territory won)
Posted by: Praguetory | May 01, 2008 at 19:02
Con + 129
Lab -97
Lib -32
Posted by: Chappers | May 01, 2008 at 19:11
289 conservative gains
315 labour losses
Posted by: Owen Meredith | May 01, 2008 at 19:30
Conservative +142
Labour - 165
LibDems +1
Others +22
Posted by: Victor, NW Kent | May 01, 2008 at 19:43
"How low could Labour's national share of the vote go? Is 22% out of the question? How low would it need to go to trigger an immediate crisis in the Labour Party?"
Well the worrying thing for Labour is that last year they were scoring 26-27% when the polls predicted about low 30%
22% might not be out the question, but turnout is everything. The good news is Brown seems to be resigned to losing by a large amount, and that will kill Labour morale.
Posted by: DavidRHayes | May 01, 2008 at 20:38
At a wild guess:
Conservative 41% +100
Labour 30% +110
Liberal Democrat 20% -220
Green 4% +20
BNP 1% -15
UKIP 1% +5
Other 3% +0-
Posted by: Yet Another Anon | May 01, 2008 at 21:31
Conservative Party gains-167
Labour Party loses-152
Liberal Democrat Party loses-75
UKI Party gains-17
Posted by: R.Baker. | May 01, 2008 at 21:44
Thanks all. Average of all 35 figures above is 182.
Posted by: Deputy Editor | May 01, 2008 at 22:17
Conservatives +200
Labour -120
Lib. Dems. -25
Posted by: Sam R | May 01, 2008 at 23:09
The Liberal Democrats actually seem to be making modest net gains which is very surprising.
Posted by: Yet Another Anon | May 02, 2008 at 11:22
It looks like a toss-up between me and James for closest at the moment...
Posted by: Andrew Lilico | May 02, 2008 at 15:54
So it seems Andrew, Although according to Sky I'm about 80 out on Labour and about 20 out on us.
Posted by: James Burdett | May 02, 2008 at 16:24
BBC has Conservatives up 252 (so me fractionally closer), Labour down 310 (so you much closer).
My guess is that you'll have it in the end.
Posted by: Andrew Lilico | May 02, 2008 at 16:53
Andrew - I'll share the non-prize!!
Posted by: James Burdett | May 02, 2008 at 16:57