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"He is opposed to secularism and who believes that the penalty for homosexuality is death..."

OK - should we run a straw poll and see what hard-line Christian preachers think about homosexuality and secularism?

Can you name a "hard-line Christian preacher" who wants the death penalty for gay people ToryJim?

Does Jerry Falwell count Tim?

On Falwell's "Old Time Gospel Hour" broadcast (March 11, 1984), when the mostly gay Metropolitan Community Church was almost accepted into the World Council of Churches, Falwell called them "brute beasts" and stated, "this vile and satanic system will one day be utterly annihilated and there'll be a celebration in heaven."

Mind you, he's dead.

Top notch stuff from DC BTW.

"Multiculturalism should shoulder some blame"

At last politicians are gaining the courage to talk about this taboo. Many areas of Britain are now Ghettos and have their own culture, social norms, even their own economy with child labour and have become no-go areas for outsiders. No wonder people feel alienated and no wonder many turn against the world beyond their ghetto.

Tony Makara, NB: That phrase is my summary of that paragraph not a verbatim Cameron phrase.

Deputy Editor, I know but I thought it articulated the situation perfectly. So I used it.

Cameron has done the right thing and withdrawn the whip from Conway.

Over to you Gordon.....

Absolutely right - glad DC is saying this.

I very much agree with the sentiments being expressed, but hesitate over whether this is the right thing to do. Ultimately, it's banning free speech. Yes, what he's saying may not be to the 'public good', and I disagree with him wholeheartedly, but then what criteria are used to determine the 'public good?' It sounds distinctly authoritarian to my mind.

Don't care whether it's authoritarian or not. Laws are already in place to get these people out of our country or stop them coming in. Why they are so rarely used is a mystery to me.

The points highlighted above for me signal the first signs that Cameron might just have the guts to start addressing some critical issues.

I wonder if he's going to break the taboo surrounding the EU, and dare to ask the question about whether it is in our interests to remain in.


Cameron's position is just empty posturing unless he also calls for action against the home grown preachers of hate and those who already have the right of abode here. The idea that it is only foreign preachers of hate who constitutte a serious threat is a myth and a pretty thin one at that.

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