9.20pm: Nick Clegg records a victory message for YouTube
6.15pm: Deborah Thomas, our candidate up against Vince Cable, has blogged her own reaction to Clegg's win.
5.45pm: Clegg's Sat-Nav concept.
4.25pm: James Forsyth suggests that Huhne could become the champion of LibDem grassroots sentiments on issues like PR... Read him here.
3.40pm: ToryRadio has an audio of Calamity's speech.
3.25pm: Well done to the well-prepared LibDem website team...
3.20pm: Both Sky and News 24 have moved on. Turned on Radio Five and they've moved on, too. It'll be interesting to see how much coverage this gets on tonight's bulletins. There doesn't seem to be much excitement and as James Forsyth wrote earlier: "The timing of the leadership race, though, has done whoever wins no favours. Any momentum they build up over the next few days will be halted by the holidays."
3.15pm: John Rentoul's review of Clegg's speech: "Clegg was completely vacuous. His election was a fresh start, he said. Which new leader does not think that - they have to prove it. He was elected to change Britain, apparently. And he's a liberal. Blimey."
3.05pm: Caroline Spelman congratulates Nick Clegg:
“We congratulate Nick Clegg on becoming the latest leader of the Liberal Democrats. We hope that the Liberal Democrats under Mr Clegg will join us in putting pressure on the Government to devolve power to local authorities, communities and individuals; in our opposition to ID cards; and in our commitment to social justice and environmental progress. We hope that together we can create a new progressive alliance to decentralise British politics.”
That's known as love-bombing! Fascinating. Will Cameron call Clegg and congratulate him when he lands in China?
3pm: Charles Kennedy tells News 24 that it was best new leader's speech he has ever heard. Clegg said that liberalism was spirit of the age and that he wanted to create a Liberal Britain.
2.55pm: 51,325 LibDems voted in the election that saw Ming win. The number of participants shrunk by nearly 20% this time.
2.47pm: Generous speech from Huhne. All that Calamity Clegg stuff is forgotten it seems. Poor Ming looks so sad.
2.45pm: 198,844 people voted in the Tory leadership race... Just 41,465 voted in the LibDem contest. 4.8 times as many Tories.
2.39pm: Clegg wins by 20,988 to 20,477.
2.35pm: Vince Cable about to declare result... Says that he's not about to undertake a coup! Some LibDems will wish he that he would. Says that LibDems need to appreciate the importance of programmes like Strictly Come Dancing! Get on with it, Vince!!
2.33pm: Sky saying that Clegg's winning margin is only 500 votes.
2.20pm: News24 is predicting a very narrow Clegg victory. Clegg was expected to win decisively... if it is "very narrow" it will be a result of his lacklustre campaign.
2.15pm: Announcement of ballot delayed until about 2.45pm. Political Betting's pundits are collectively predicting a Clegg victory with 53.7%. Vince Cable's acting leadership ends on another high. He's been all over the media today discussing the latest development's in the stealthy nationalisation of Northern Rock. We put his 'Bean performance' at PMQs on PlayPolitical earlier.
A lot closer than expected. It would have been better for us if Huhne would have won.
Posted by: Adam | December 18, 2007 at 14:45
Excellent and generous speech from Huhne. Clegg sounds like a Cameron clone. Good news for Brown, bad for Dave.
Posted by: Moral minority | December 18, 2007 at 14:45
Can someone remind me of the result when David Cameron won?
Posted by: Anon | December 18, 2007 at 14:46
I think its a bad result for Brown as he suddenly looks the old, grey, and tired man of UK politics.
Posted by: Jonathan Sheppard | December 18, 2007 at 14:48
Well, we'll have to see what Clegg is made of. He's fought an extremely low profile campaign and put forward no substantive ideas that I'm aware of.
The only pronouncement I can remember Nick Clegg making in recent months is his proposal to allow illegal immigrants an amnesty. Will it come back to haunt him?
Posted by: Malcolm Dunn | December 18, 2007 at 14:50
Jonathan Sheppard, very interesting point. Gordon Brown will look even more old-hat, if thats possible. Politics shouldn't be about image but if presentation didn't matter the ad men would be out of a job.
Posted by: Tony Makara | December 18, 2007 at 14:53
Interesting to see it takes under 21,000 to become leader of the Lib Dems. Seems a shockingly low number. Some unsuccessful Parliamentary candidates will have polled more ina single constituency surely?
Posted by: Jonathan Sheppard | December 18, 2007 at 14:55
Clegg is a rubbish public speaker! Bet he doesn't even manage a month of attending weekly meetings at empty town halls!
Posted by: Richard | December 18, 2007 at 14:55
This is a bad result for the Lib Dems. Clegg's barely got a mandate and virtually half of the voters did not want him! Given the policy differences as well as the personal difficulties between Clegg and Huhne the Lib Dems look to me to be rudderless and divided.
Posted by: Steve Garner | December 18, 2007 at 14:57
Anon - I don't know the actual numbers but Cameron beat Davis by almost exactly two to one
Posted by: BC | December 18, 2007 at 14:58
Clegg just gave a very good speech, rather passionate. Those that think this does not matter are mistaken, Nick Clegg will take a numeber of votes off the Conservatives. I do agree Brown is finsished, will not see 2009 as Prime Minister.
Posted by: Paul | December 18, 2007 at 15:03
Two lively speeches from Vince Cable and Chris Huhne - and then Clegg. What a bore. He only speaks in vacuous generalities. He sounds like a man who's learnt his lines but doesn't really believe in them. I'd say he's a bit of a dud. And the calamity Clegg tag is going to come back to haunt him.
Posted by: Oscar Miller | December 18, 2007 at 15:05
For the result follow the Conservative 2.45pm link http://conservativehome.blogs.com/toryleadership/2005/12/the_result.html
Posted by: Ken Creek | December 18, 2007 at 15:06
Anon:
Cameron polled 67% of the vote (approx 135,000 votes)
Davis obviously approx half that.
Posted by: John Leonard | December 18, 2007 at 15:08
http://donalblaney.blogspot.com/2007/12/ex-parrot.html
I don't think we should be quick to write-off Nick Clegg as a party at all. Caroline Spelman is right to continue her mischief making and wedge issues need to be deployed to keep the internal LibDem divisions alive and well. I think Clegg is potentially much more dangerous for Tories than Huhne would have been and than Campbell or even Kennedy were.
Posted by: Donal Blaney | December 18, 2007 at 15:15
"Clegg sounds like a Cameron clone. Good news for Brown, bad for Dave."
Why?
Posted by: David | December 18, 2007 at 15:29
Clegg will be a prisoner of Huhne and Cable. He'll be surrounded by people who think they should be leader and not him.
Posted by: Umbrella man | December 18, 2007 at 15:35
Good news for us.
Clegg already has "calamity" stuck to him, and frankly he sounds like a Cameron clone that is in no way anywhere as good.
He won't take any votes from us, he really is an idiot.
Posted by: Jaz | December 18, 2007 at 15:37
I rather suspect Donal Blaney may be right.We should not write off Clegg because of his poor campaign and rather vacuous speech today. There must be more to him than this, mustn't there?
Posted by: Malcolm Dunn | December 18, 2007 at 15:40
This result shows that the Lib Dems are deeply divided and not just into Clegg and Huhne supporters. The fact that the number of votes was well down on 2006 makes me think that a number of far left ex Labour Lib Dems did no bother to vote and could, but could yet stick the knive into a leader who must have got considerably less than 50% if the Lib Dem memberships votes.
Also I suspect the outcome should not matter too much for us. Both Mr Clegg or Mr Huhne would be very unlikely to back us in a hung parliament, and both have distinctly federalist attitudes to the European Union. Moreover both men,like Gordon brown do not think voters should have a say on the EU (cough) Reform Treaty (cough). They are entitled to their views, but I suspect man ex -Tory voters who voted for the Lib Dems in 1997, 2001 and 2005 will not agree with them. We as a party need to stress these points to voters in Conservative-Lib Dem marginals between now and the next election. In other words tell them a vote for a Clegg led Lib Dem Party is a vote for Gordon Brown and Federal EU super-state.
Posted by: Kenneth Baxter | December 18, 2007 at 15:54
This result shows that the Lib Dems are deeply divided, but I suspect the outcome should not matter too much for us in any case. Both Mr Clegg or Mr Huhne would be very unlikely to back us in a hung parliament, and both have distinctly federalist attitudes to the European Union. Moreover both men,like Gordon brown do not think voters should have a say on the EU 'Reform Treaty'.They are entitled to their views, but I suspect man ex -Tory voters who voted for the Lib Dems in 1997, 2001 and 2005 will not agree with them. We as a party need to stress these points to voters in Conservative-Lib Dem marginals between now and the next election. In other words tell them a vote for a Clegg led Lib Dem Party is a vote for Gordon Brown and a Federal EU super-state.
Posted by: Kenneth Baxter | December 18, 2007 at 15:56
David, Cameron and Clegg will compete for the same voters - especially in SW London, Hampshire, Dorset, Devon and Cornwall.
Clegg was seen as by Lib Dem activists as the guy who would help them hold onto seats in those areas, i.e. the Lib Dem strongholds where a large proportion of the activists live.
Huhne would have been more attractive to Labour voters that will never vote Tory, e.g. in Newcastle and Liverpool. That will benefit Brown.
Alex Salmond will also benefit as the SNP will pick up even more anti-Labour votes now that Kennedy and Campbell have been ousted. Cameron and Clegg have little appeal north of the border.
Cameron will benefit from Clegg's lack of campaigning skills. Perhaps Cable will be kept on to mentor his fellow Orange Booker.
The other positive outcome is that the Lib Dems are split between the liberals and social democrats - Orange Bookers versus Huhne, Kennedy, Williams etc. There will be a policy debate and possible stalemate, especially on public sector reform.
The recent polls have been irrelevant as the Lib Dems had no Leader. The polls in March and elections in May will tell us much more about our future electoral fortunes.
Posted by: Moral minority | December 18, 2007 at 16:14
David, Cameron and Clegg will compete for the same voters - especially in SW London, Hampshire, Dorset, Devon and Cornwall.
Clegg was seen as by Lib Dem activists as the guy who would help them hold onto seats in those areas, i.e. the Lib Dem strongholds where a large proportion of the activists live.
Huhne would have been more attractive to Labour voters that will never vote Tory, e.g. in Newcastle and Liverpool. That will benefit Brown.
Alex Salmond will also benefit as the SNP will pick up even more anti-Labour votes now that Kennedy and Campbell have been ousted. Cameron and Clegg have little appeal north of the border.
Cameron will benefit from Clegg's lack of campaigning skills. Perhaps Cable will be kept on to mentor his fellow Orange Booker.
The other positive outcome is that the Lib Dems are split between the liberals and social democrats - Orange Bookers versus Huhne, Kennedy, Williams etc. There will be a policy debate and possible stalemate, especially on public sector reform.
The recent polls have been irrelevant as the Lib Dems had no Leader. The polls in March and elections in May will tell us much more about our future electoral fortunes.
Posted by: Moral minority | December 18, 2007 at 16:15
David, Cameron and Clegg will compete for the same voters - especially in SW London, Hampshire, Dorset, Devon and Cornwall.
Clegg was seen as by Lib Dem activists as the guy who would help them hold onto seats in those areas, i.e. the Lib Dem strongholds where a large proportion of the activists live.
Posted by: Moral minority | December 18, 2007 at 16:16
I think Clegg took his time in making it very clear that he is not at all interested in linking up with either the Labour or Conservative Party anytime down the line,in fact he made a snide remark about David Cameron in answer to one question.
He will be/is a puppet of the other two for certain I believe.
Posted by: R.Baker. | December 18, 2007 at 16:17
It is the Conservative Party that has made a terrible mistake in electing a leader everyone wants to copy
If only we'd gone for sound rightwinger that no one wants to be like
Posted by: Winifred G Nutt | December 18, 2007 at 16:21
"David, Cameron and Clegg will compete for the same voters - especially in SW London, Hampshire, Dorset, Devon and Cornwall. "
Right, so you are one of those voters. You can either vote for the same thing that has a chance of winning, or the same thing that doesn't. Which would you choose?
Posted by: David | December 18, 2007 at 16:24
We will need to wait a little to see what Clegg does. He has not shown much of a willingness to attack the Govt, more to waste effort attacking us.
There have been rumours that he will try and shift Rennard back to Campaigning and out of being the CEO.
Huhne seemed to be instinctively more of a campaigner, like Rennard, than Clegg is.
If we see off Clegg in GE2010 because of a massive loss of LD seats, then we will have seen the demise of 2 Leaders as Huhne cannot possibly go for a 3rd time in 2010.
Posted by: HF | December 18, 2007 at 16:25
The Lib Dems attack us relentlessly, e.g. Clegg's acceptance speech. So Caroline "lovebombs" him. She should be talking about "Calamity Clegg", internal splits and Lib Dem support for the EU constitution. It's Calamity Caroline now!
Posted by: Moral minority | December 18, 2007 at 16:26
I don't think this is necessarily the good news for the LibDems that they think it is - I have written a piece on my blog about this:
http://deborah4twickenham.com/?p=231
Deborah Thomas
PPC Twickenham
Posted by: Deborah | December 18, 2007 at 16:29
I don't know why some Tories worry about Clegg - he's vacuous and will cause us few problems - they may even go down another point or two without Cable, and this result is ideal, leaving them a divided party.
But I agree we should be attacking them, not treating them as part of a progressive co-alition.
Those of us who have witnessed the sheer nastiness of the Lib Dem party, and more importantly, it's total incompetence, want nothing to do with them.
Posted by: Joe James Broughton | December 18, 2007 at 16:45
Disaster for Lib Dems. Narrow victory means a split party and potential for lots of internal fights - as we well know from past experience.
More worryingly for them is why 20% less people voted than when Ming's coronation took place. Given tis was close you would expect more.
This seems to confirm what I am hearing about them having real trouble motivating their activists to do anything.
This is an opportunity for us.
Posted by: Kevin Davis | December 18, 2007 at 16:48
A suprisingly very close and potentially divisive result. Not many people voted either - it looked rather like a general election result in a single constituency!
Nick Clegg will almost certainly get some sort of honeymoon just for the publicity but I'd be surprised to see it lasting long. People wil realise there's only one way to vote out this government and that is to vote Conservative.
Posted by: Votedave | December 18, 2007 at 16:52
I disagree with JJB et al that we should attack Clegg. Who is going to be scared of him? Of yesterday's seven approaches to attacking the LibDems I prefer the one which emphasised that 'only a vote for the Conservatives is a guaranteed route to ousting Labour'. With Labour so unpopular I think we must present ourselves as the only alternative government.
Thanks Deborah. Your post was worth reading. I commend it to others.
Posted by: Jennifer Wells | December 18, 2007 at 16:58
Sorry Jennifer - I agree we shouldn't give them lots of attention - at national level in speeches and so on (although they do need to be dealt with on the ground).
That raises their credibility.
But, although I am a strong supporter of Caroline Spelman, I'd rather we didn't make comments like she did today.
As you say, the right way is simply to set out our plans as an alternative government, and the rest should take care of itself.
Posted by: Joe James Broughton | December 18, 2007 at 17:49
That was quite an interesting piece Deborah.
Very enjoyable to read.
Posted by: Buckinghamshire Tory | December 18, 2007 at 17:59
Whatever one thinks of the LibDems (I do not rate them at all), one has to give it to them that they are VERY good with the numbers- they said the leadership election was too close to call weeks ago and we all thought 'yeah sure!'....and they were 100 % correct...and they call every by-election perfectly, days before the poll. We need to learn a little about vote calculation from them.
Posted by: eugene | December 18, 2007 at 18:00
"As you say, the right way is simply to set out our plans as an alternative government, and the rest should take care of itself."
Agreed.
As for Spelman, well, they are left wingers and we are or we should be on the centre right.
If anyone will be working together it will be the Labour Party and Lib Dems - get that into your head and lets be prepared for a decisive victory, not a victory that will revolve around need to work with the Lib Dems.
Posted by: rightsideforum | December 18, 2007 at 18:00
Excellent piece by Deborah
Posted by: anon | December 18, 2007 at 18:09
Such TV performances as I forced myself to watch did not exactly reveal a dynamic commanding presence in Clegg. Rather he seemed to spend most of his time making faces as Huhne climbed all over him.
He won just a whisker over half of the voters in what seems to have been a significantly reduced turnout from Campbell's election. Hardly a ringing endorsement for him nor proof of a highly united party behind him, nor is it exactly the win that was predicted: I seem to recall that the smart money was on him walking it 60-40 or so. The actual result suggests he nearly lost it which in turn suggests he put in a poor performance to lose that much ground.
Though PMQs is hardly the full measure of a man, it does matter to the extent of being somewhere to see how people conduct themselves under fire. I do not have the feeling that Clegg has 'presence' nor the sort of deftness of phrase that is required to make this work for him. Cable was given a reasonable hearing because everyone knew he was but the scene shifter and he had a couple of 'bon mots' to deliver that trashed Brown. Clegg will not receive the same courtesy.
I also think that his having been in Parliament for five minutes is a serious disadvantage. He may find getting command of the House a problem, especially as he may not yet have established himself as a Commons presence.
When I have seen him in debate it has been pedestrian and flat so I think he may find this part hard.
So whilst there are reasons that would have made Huhne preferable to Clegg for us, I feel underwhelmed by the latter and his potential. We shall see.
A propos Brown, I fully agree that he is now going to look markedly the old, tired, yesterday's man: he already does so to some extent and the 'clunking fist' style of oratory he espouses seems so 1970s.
Add in how bewildered he seems at the moment - his appearance in the Europe debate this week was very odd: he sat the whole time with head down, thumbing through his files like a man possessed: very manic looking stuff - and one has a sense of someone on the way down.
Clegg may suprise us all and blossom. But it will be a surprise.
Posted by: The Huntsman | December 18, 2007 at 18:16
Eugene "Whatever one thinks of the LibDems one has to give it to them that they are VERY good with the numbers- ...and they call every by-election perfectly, days before the poll. We need to learn a little about vote calculation from them"
Quite right Eugene, it starts with voter software that
1) works
2) is built for 2007 and not 1997 and
3) is deployed properly.
Posted by: jim | December 18, 2007 at 18:19
If Clegg turns out to be a true radical liberal, both socially and economically then we will see an impact on our vote. I doubt he can carry his party but it is pointless trying to enter the crowded centre ground. How refreshing it would be if Clegg became a Ron Paul figure, espousing a proper libertarian viewpoint and showing that there is an alternative to what we have at the moment from both ourselves and Labour.
Posted by: Paul | December 18, 2007 at 18:21
Just heard Nick Clegg interviewed on R4s PM which only confirmed what a lightweight he is. He sounded very nervous. Agree with Jennifer there's no point in coming in too hard against Clegg. It would only make it look as if he was to be feared giving him too much credibility. I reckon Caroline Spelman's approach is the right one. BTW Eddie Mair demolished Hazel Blears over the 7k donation to DC. After grandly announcing Labour had to 'dig up' the story which only came to light yesterday, Mair revealed it had been reported in an Electoral Commission newsletter in November. Collapse of Blears. (She sounded like she was going to bawl out her researcher). Apart from that the story only reignites the much much bigger Abrahams story reminding everyone of Labour sleaze.
Posted by: Oscar Miller | December 18, 2007 at 18:26
Just blogged:
Can Nick Clegg be done for corrupt practice?
The Universities of Sheffield (Sheffield and Hallam) have an enlightened policy. They automatically register their students on the electoral roll.
This means that each individual student should vote either by post from a home address or in the constituency in Sheffield.
Guess what?
Many choose to be ignorant and vote twice.
And who is the main recipient of this concentration of adulation? A former lecturer at the University, since 2005 MP for Sheffield, Hallam: Nick Clegg.
There are 45,000 students in Sheffield.
Posted by: Malcolm Redfellow | December 18, 2007 at 18:44
I think Clegg will be far more capable of holding onto would be Conservative voters than Ming ever was and it underlines how essential it is for the Conservatives to stay on the centre progressive ground and not go on about Europe.
Posted by: Cleo | December 18, 2007 at 19:19
I don't think so Cleo. Clegg opposes giving the British people a vote on the European Constitution. He is as much a fraudelent democrat as Brown. We should expose this day after day. Some Lib Dems like to pose as Eurosceptics we should expose them as frauds too.
Posted by: Malcolm Dunn | December 18, 2007 at 19:50
Hallooo Cleo, still exactly on message!
Nick Clegg seems to resemble a bad artists portrait of David Cameron, and when he speaks, his voice sounds vaguely like DC's, neither of those things will do him any favours, because he needs to establish an individual image of his own.
Posted by: Patsy Sergeant | December 18, 2007 at 19:50
Well said, Malcolm. Clegg once said (Guardian, 15.10.03) that the real reason why the government does not want to hold a referendum is the fear that it may lose.
He admitted then that the EU Constitution was no mere tidying up exercise, but this year claims its near-identical remould is a modest document that does not need a referendum!
Clegg's personal leadership manifesto 'My Vision for Britain' goes on about being true to principles, but for some reason he won't keep his 2005 general election pledge....
Methinks he's in for some embarrassment.
Posted by: Julian Melford | December 18, 2007 at 21:12
Clegg nearly went to pieces interviewed by Jon Snow on C4 News - very very nervous. He even managed to say he wouldn't do a deal with the LibDems before correcting himself with an 'errr sorry - Labour'. He was tripping up on his words all over the place.
Posted by: Oscar Miller | December 18, 2007 at 21:12
I suspect that there are quite a few Libdems who voted for Clegg early in the voting window who will come to regret their choice if they aren't already doing so. Whenever I hear him, Clegg just seems to waffle.
Politically Huhne is even less to my taste, but it has to be conceded that he ran a much better campaign and has more evident leadership qualities.
Posted by: Martin Wright | December 18, 2007 at 22:20
I'm watching Clegg's speech now. I've always thought if this is the most inspiring the Lib Dems can produce, it is quite an indictment...
Anyway, I had to laugh. Apparently, the Liberal Democrats are "weary of government interference."
Posted by: Ash Faulkner | December 18, 2007 at 22:31
One more week and victory would have been Huhne's.
That's politics.
As IDS wrote eloquently on ConservativeHome, best just forget the Lib Dems and concentrate on what we can control - namely, getting our own house in order.
Posted by: Edison Smith | December 18, 2007 at 22:32
Bad news and will take many votes and don't forget the LibDems are rather good at campaigning.
Posted by: Gordon Hetherington | December 18, 2007 at 22:45
"there's only one way to vote out this government and that is to vote Conservative."
Votedave, you have said it in a sentence. Nick Clegg and the Liberals have got nothing to offer. The next election is about one thing, change, we either get it by returning a Conservative government or suffer more of the same from Labour. Those who want change, including those who usually vote Liberal, need to get behind David Cameron and make change a reality. A vote for the Liberals is a vote for the status quo, and more Labour failure.
Posted by: Tony Makara | December 18, 2007 at 23:10
2.20pm: News24 is predicting a very narrow Clegg victory. Clegg was expected to win decisively... if it is "very narrow" it will be a result of his lacklustre campaign.
Could it be that that his campaign was lacklustre because he didn’t really want the job? Could it be because he realises we are back into the two-main party politics now, and David Cameron has established such a commanding lead that it is too late to make headway now? Or, maybe he realises his party is split down the middle between economic liberals and high tax and spend socialists, and that the latter are said to be the vast majority among the activists. Anyway compare and contrast the narrowness of the actual result, only 500 votes ahead of Chris Huhne – barely a mandate – with David Cameron’s decisive victory in our leadership election.
Posted by: Philip | December 18, 2007 at 23:52
It would have been better for us if Huhne would have won.
I doubt it will make much difference - Vincent Cable was probably the best possible leader the Liberal Democrats could have had, he will still be a leading player, probably the intellectual force behind policy development he has increasingly been since becoming Deputy Leader which he of course remains.
Chris Huhne though might stand for another senior position - Party President or Deputy Leader perhaps, if Nick Clegg resigns after the next General Election it is quite possible that there could be a leadership election between Chris Huhne, Vincent Cable and Julia Goldsworthy or Lynne Featherstone - depending on who keeps their seats.
Most likely though if a likely falling back of the Liberal Democrats to more like where they were after the 1997 General Election occurs that it will be said that it wasn't Nick Clegg's fault and he will be allowed to stay on for another term.
Anyway compare and contrast the narrowness of the actual result, only 500 votes ahead of Chris Huhne – barely a mandate – with David Cameron’s decisive victory in our leadership election.
Both Liberal Democrat candidates were standing on such similar platforms that it did amount to a decision on which was thought more likely to win, there were much bigger policy differences between David Cameron and David Davis, if the Conservatives had used the same system that the Liberal Democrats used, would David Cameron have won? It would have come down to preference votes in a 5 way contest, the final round of MPs voting in the Conservative leadership election had a big effect on how members voted, in a STV ballot of the members Liam Fox might well have won - he didn't get through to the members vote largely because his honest questioning of whether the UK should be part of the EU is a bit much for MPs who mostly are more favourable towards the EU than party members, which is actually the case in all 3 main parties.
Posted by: Yet Another Anon | December 19, 2007 at 00:39
PODWAS - Poor Old Deborah, What a shame! She is an inexperienced amateur compared to Vince!
Posted by: Hamptonian | December 19, 2007 at 00:52
I wish they'd had Hughes - he behaved like a shifty undertaker (with the body hidden) on the dark night they decapitated poor old Ming.
Posted by: Joe James Broughton | December 19, 2007 at 00:59
I wish they'd had Hughes
There were always many who felt that his reasons for joining back in the early 1980s, which he gave as being that "his local Labour council were too right wing", were dubious to say the least - that he was possibly closer in opinions to Michael Foot than to David Steel. Peter Hain had similar sorts of origins.
Peter Tatchell's endorsement in 2006 was probably the kiss of death for Simon Hughes leadership hopes.
Posted by: Yet Another Anon | December 19, 2007 at 01:53
I see Nick Clegg as more of an Iain Duncan-Smith than a David Cameron, in that he already seems to have shown a marked inability to rise to the occasion. Voting for someone 'like' David Cameron was both cynical and naive. Cynical for obvious reasons, but naive to expect someone picked from such a small pool to replicate exactly the qualities of another leader. Clegg seems to lack the charm, confidence, charisma, lightness of touch and ability to answer tough questions that Cameron has. I suspect that Clegg's PMQs will be a rather sad affair (not that Cameron's have been anything to write home about of late). Clegg ought to be rather flattered by the dramatic nickname 'Calamity' in my opinion. It's hard to imagine someone so dull and ineffectual causing more than a passing tribulation.
The Lib Dem's have realised too late that what they really needed to replicate was the basis of the Tories decision, not the result. That basis being -forget who's face fits, or who looks right on paper, and go for the leader who makes the best case for themselves. That is how we found ourselves with Cameron not Davis. And not doing that is why the Lib Dem's have found themselves with Clegg, not Huhne (or indeed Cable).
Posted by: Simon R. | December 19, 2007 at 01:56
Simon R - I agree there is a whiff of IDS's leadership about Clegg. His acceptance speech yesterday brought back sad memories of the infamous 'turning up the volume' speech - stilted, nervous and over coached.
Posted by: Oscar Miller | December 19, 2007 at 12:18
Paxman made mince meat of him on Newsnight yesterday.
I don't know why some Tories are worried - probably because they want to snipe at Cameron.
I actually supported David Davis, but David Cameron won and deserves the support of the party, and they have sharpened up the tax proposals.
One reason we're doing well.
Posted by: Joe James Broughton | December 19, 2007 at 12:44