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What happens if a rival party submits an oak tree as one of its permitted three ballot paper logos to the electoral commission today?

No formal decision has been taken to adopt the logo, so there would be nothing to stop a rival registering its image.

It's tempting for a cheeky rival. ;-)

Hmmmm Green sort of blue and really fuzzy, yep got it bang on!

I am always confused when new logos are chosen. What I ask are the changers trying to say?

"What I ask are the changers trying to say?"

...It's my Party & I'll cry if I want to !

I found the link to this page from the guardianonline site, so they did credit you guys...

I hear from a CCO source that its "likely" to go ahead albeit with a survey...pah. If its anything like the survey over membership rates, why bother? You tell us which answers to give anyway!

Please can we NOT have another day of ranting pensioners demanding that our ancient torch symbol (under which Disraeli defeated Gladstone etc) be retained.

The Conservative logo debate to be discussed shortly on Radio 5Live.

I'm 42 but perhaps that's too old for the party now...rant over !!

Alison :

I'm widely known over at PoliticalBetting.com as being aged 103 !

Con Home just been given a plug on Radio 5. Described as a right wing blog. Wonder if Labourhome is described as a left wing blog. Maybe something for the BBC platform piece.

For heavens sake is this blog as obsessed with trivia as the party's leaders? They've got nothing to say except "We agree with Blair on most things [except war and peace which we won't mention] and we want employers to provide showers for cyclists"

The core vote is melting away and that's all they can think of - a tree!

The torch was OK - a good campaigning symbol - and the tree is harmless but at this juncture to get steamed up about the change is pathetic

"Please can we NOT have another day of ranting pensioners demanding that our ancient torch symbol (under which Disraeli defeated Gladstone etc) be retained."

Please can we not have another day of sneering modernisers criticising those who wonder whether this costly exercise will actually make a blind bit of difference except to waste money.

An Oak tree is a fantastic new conservative logo, that represents the rural past, and the ecological future.

I agree with a comment made on radio 5......it does look like a mushroom cloud.

Oh my word !!!!!!!!!!!!!

As 5Live has just pointed out, turned upside down the new logo appears like sperm wending their merry way to target !!

A rethink required me thinks.

Apologies - a mention of conservativehome was cut from the first edition piece in the Guardian when it was edited to fit - but we restored it for later on.

Jack W, you must have some rather unusual sperm!

Not something I'd ever have expected to say on ConHome.

Unless you're looking at the Daily Mail logo...

We should all be very happy afer all thats the one we voted for!

I like it! Very clever image and message (all good things spring from Conversatism etc). Not sure about the shade of blue they seemed to have chosen though, seems a little purple.

But anyway, you guys must be onto a winner if a non Tory like me likes it!

Unwillingness to mention the blogsphere is pathetic and petty. I remember watching Channel 4's treatment of the faked Reuters pictures, referring to Little Green Footballs et al as "conspiracy theorists" rather than the checkers of "facts."

I like the oak tree, it's certainly a warmer image (no pun intended) than the torch.

Thank you Julian. Your shadow cabinet-tree comparisons were very funny btw!

"I agree with a comment made on radio 5......it does look like a mushroom cloud."

:-) Well we know the first initial of the past three Tory leaders who actually faced/will face the public in a general election are W.M.D, so perhaps it is fitting!

Editor, I must say all this 'Acknowledgment rating' etc. seems a bit narcisistic and unneccesary. I appreciate that as the creator of this useful resource it is of concern to you, but whether we the readers really need to be treated to a verdict on whether CH was mentioned and with enough due reverence in every article is a different matter.

Logos need refreshing from time to time but it seems singularly inappropriate to replace the torch of liberty with a touchy, feely sprig of foliage at a time when our freedoms are under unparalled threat externally (Islamist terrorism , EU lawmaking) and internally ( lifestyle police , high taxes , ID cards and numerous others).

"Please can we NOT have another day of ranting pensioners demanding that our ancient torch symbol (under which Disraeli defeated Gladstone etc) be retained."

Okay, how about a 28 year old who thinks the proposed new logo looks bloody stupid? The most recent incarnation of the torch looks a tad Soviet for my taste and I didn't see anything wrong with the version it replaced. What is the point of opting for a multi colour tree logo which is apparently going to look like a mushroom cloud on most literature put out by local associations? How many associations have the facilities to print full colour leaflets in house? At least the torch works in black and white.

Rob,

I agree it would be OTT to rate newspapers' courtesy every time they use a CH story (if we had the time we could compile a pretty damning dossier for the Press Plagiarist of the Year Award), but that isn't our intention.

I think it is an issue worth flagging up though - newspapers are very reluctant to give blogs the oxygen of publicity.

To David Henry's "Islamist terrorism , EU lawmaking) and internally ( lifestyle police , high taxes , ID cards and numerous others" I would add the debt crisis, soldiers dying for lack of support, the collapse of the NHS, the need to face up to nuclear power [someone' "warmer image" won't help in the winter)

We have a battle to win and all these whinging so-called Tories who are frightened by an inspiring torch have little to offer. And this "ranting pensioner" answered her country's call when it came and helped at D-Day. What a lot of lily-livered people there are arounf!

Go have a shower with the Boy Cameron.

CM @ 13:41

Yes, you're right! You're right! You're damn right!

Daily Mail also has pics of Dave with his shirt off.....giving me yet another reason not to like him

Ive noticed a comment by me was used by the Independent today. At the end, "Cameron, dont do this"...twas me!

Those photos were hilarious. One, horrible physique. Second, no hair! Third, the cheeky grab. Fourth, the shorts.

Its great comedy!

While the country happily falls about our ears in all areas up over upon planet conservative 'logos' are what dominates debate and whether or not to go for a tree! ...hmmm?well for me a voter something more simple like policys would do!, still should they still be looking for logo ideas can I suggest what a radio 2 listener suggested today a Rubic Cube as it's new party logo because like the conservatives a rubic cube is something thats started with good intentions but after a while when not much is happening you just end up getting bored with it!

My comment that I thought this logo (like much of the rest of Cameron's leadership) was deleted.

Clearly freedom of speech has limits at ConservativeHome.

Please disregard my previous comment. Editors: feel free to delete both comments.

What happens if a rival party submits an oak tree as one of its permitted three ballot paper logos to the electoral commission today?
Unless it had a blue trunk (I don't recall ever seeing a tree with a blue trunk) and especially if like most Oak Trees it had visible gaps in the greenery with bits of wood and sky visible through it, I don't really see that there could be any objections.

The Electoral Commission can rule against accepting logos if, in their opinion, it is likely to cause confusion. However this oak tree has not yet been registered at all, so another party or spoiler candidate could do it.

The Electoral Commission can rule against accepting logos if, in their opinion, it is likely to cause confusion.
Given the publicity over it the Conservative Party would have clearly established copyright over that particular image and surely on those grounds the Electoral Commission would not accept that particular image if presented to them by another party.

Centre-right party adopts oak tree logo. Now where have I seen that before?
Err.. oh dear... how unfortunate... http://www.u-m-p.org/site/Portfolio.php !!!
(Scroll down to the photos to see Sarkozy behind a rostrum in which even the colour of the logo is almost identical).
So much for leaving the EPP. It seems Dave did learn something after all when he visited Sarko.

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