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If Cameron truly believes in localism, would it not make more sense to give local associations complete freedom with regards to the selection of PPCs, even allowing people to stand who are not on the centrally-approved candidate list?

That way he could have a policy that matches his principles.

Oh, I don't know, maybe David Cameron wants to win, become Prime Minister and put this country back on track and he can only do that if he as the right people in his vanguard. Also, it should be borne in mind that the membership voted over 2:1 in favour of Cameron. We knew what we were going to get, this is it, get used to it.

"We knew what we were going to get, this is it, get used to it."

Except David Cameron's leadership bid made no mention of implementing a 'priority list'.

I don't seem to remember Cameron campaigning on a platform that endorsed positive discrimination.

Also, it should be borne in mind that the membership voted over 2:1 in favour of Cameron. We knew what we were going to get, this is it, get used to it.

It is exactly that kind of thinking Henry that makes the upcoming BuiltToLast vote so divisive. The members will have to vote on a set of vague aims without policy and when contradictory policies are later introduced that do not comply with the document people like you will say, "xx% voted for B2L so stop complaining" etc.

CDMs suggestion, if implemented would mean I would have little reason to be an exile and would probably mean I would return to the fold. That said, we are talking about Cameron, who is staking his legacy as Party leader on this. This is something thats going to affect the Conservative Party for years and will be a cornerstone of his leadership. He'll stick with it, unless opposition becomes too much, and this early stage I wouldnt expect it. It would be humilating for him.

Henry, I wonder what proportion of those who voted realised that they would be voting in advance for this? How would it have affected the voting? Reckon it would still have led to him becoming Leader?

"when contradictory policies are later introduced"

I would argue strongly that the Built to Last doesnt match some of the policies proposed since Decembers election already. In fact some of the policies dont match the leaders quotes...demanding that Blair make schools as independent as possible but then saying that they shouldnt be grammar schools.

I am delighted that an effort is being made to promote women and ethnic minorities' chances, but why oh why promote inexperienced lightweights like you know who?

Built To Last:
"We want to see more local democracy, instead of more centralisation"

"social justice and equal opportunity are achieved by empowering people and communities – instead of thinking that only the state can guarantee fairness."

Just how does a centrally-selected and positive discrimination policy imposed on local communities achieve the aims of 'more local democracy' and 'equal opportunity by empowering communities to achieve fairness'?

Along with Maude's attempt to strip members of the right to vote for leader and state funding of political parties, this a-list approach is at least being consistent in its big government approach.

A word in defense of Adam whose selection will add to the gaiety of the process and if successful in getting a suitable seat will provide absolute confirmation that we have changed from the party of 1997 :-)

Compare his performance on QT with Ming at PMQs.

One can get better, the other....

I think the Editor (may songbirds chirrup merrily wherever he may go) summed it up pretty well on Channel 4 News just now

I don't believe I missed that!

Can we please have advance warning next time the Editor is going to be on TV? I'd like to set my recorder, thanks.

It is a crime to deny me the pleasure, really. A CRIME.

He was on the Daily Politics at lunchtime as well, I think.

Thats no excuse, we want to see him. He'd be at the top of our A-List everytime! Where will you be next Tim? We love you Tim!

'Suggestion' and other cheerleaders show just how unmodern they really are. We have an 'A' list which shoe-horns DC-types into position as the next generation of Conservatives - and it's now supposed to be secret as well! Do these people have any respect for democracy? Can't they remember the purpose of politics? It's NOT as a club for mutual supporters to get jobs in politics.

If that's the club you want, 'Suggestion', then go and pay for all your own promotion and stuff all your own envelopes.

A healthy, modern, democratic party would embrace competition, transparency, debate. There's nothing modern about you guys, just modernistic posturing in service of the same old stitch-ups.

The more people know about a secret the more difficult it is to keep secret, it was always crazy to try and keep the A List candidates secret, they might as well publish them - many on the list are already well known of as being almost certain as being pushed forward as being the among most talented up and coming members of the Conservative Party, the number of constituencies involved is so large that details are bound to leak out and speculation is bound to have successes in finding out who candidates are by publishing the names and waiting for the whole How did you know that reaction. Unlike National Security matters there are no provisions for silencing people who might otherwise talk.

"Oh, I don't know, maybe David Cameron wants to win, become Prime Minister and put this country back on track and he can only do that if he as the right people in his vanguard."

There's more to a party than its leader for the time being.

Thats no excuse, we want to see him. He'd be at the top of our A-List everytime! Where will you be next Tim? We love you Tim!
Posted by: Tim Montgomery fanclub | May 10, 2006 at 22:10

We're clearly not alone here, although it must be said -it's not a proper Tim Montgomerie fanclub until
a) I am on it, and chairing it and
b) You learn how to spell his name

Tim, can I finally have some conservativehome mugs for our new fan club members? We'll even let you call us "ConservativeHomies" if you like!

Soz about spelling, we know who we want and we want Tim! We want Tim! Tim, we love you! Eeeeeeeeee!!!! Yes, give us the mugs, we love the ConservativeHome, yey!

We'll even let you call us "ConservativeHomies"

Nobody calls me a homie! That phrase is far too modern!

I think Biodun may be angling for a glimpse of your six pack Tim.... ;o)

I'm not that greedy, Informed Conservative. A mug would do me just fine :-)

ToryLady - Are you really a Tory or just pretending? Shouting "racist" is no argument. It's the "yaboo-sucks" argument of the playground. Do grow up and learn to argue in a civilised way.

I supported Davies because I thought Cameron was all froth and spin. I was right about that but I never thought that all the people who've kept the party alive would be shoved aside to promote - not on merit - a list of candidates chosen by the Marxist method of "Democratic Centralism". It stinks.

I hope some local associations rebel.

And btw Why did Cameron appear outside parliament in a photo-op which was an exact copy of Blair's Babes photo-op. Why did he only meet with successful women candidates?

I am asking my readers to tell me what Adam has that Iain doesn't, please check it out.

Biodun

Iain Dale has the video clip from Channel 4 News on his blog.

I know I'm not allowed to say this, but having the 'inspiring' Bernard Jenkin of all people in charge of this process adds a beautiful touch of irony.

You can say whatever you want here, within reason. The irony isnt lost here. Unless you are on the List and are terrified of retribution by Lord Cameron? You're safe here.

Well I'm not on it, which is a bit of a disappointment, but not really a shock.

Twice a GE candidate, constituency chairman, area deputy chairman etc etc. Oh and last week invited to join the quality of life policy team.

Not enough political experience I'm told.

At this very moment I feel like chucking it all in. What is the point in showing loyalty to the party, if it isn't returned.

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