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By no means a purge of the right, which is probably sensible. Damien Green is a very sensible appointment to immigration, will set the right tone.

I'm interested however that Cameron hasn't appointed more women to "just below" shadow cabinet posts so that in 2/3 years time he can go into the run up to an election with a shadow cabinet crammed full of women. Wouldn't it be something to have the first cabinet with a majority of women in it. A real change for the party and British politics. Again i'm surprised he hasn't promoted people to junior posts in a strategic way, or maybe he has...

The front bench will be groaning with the combined weight of all this lot (even though - unless I've missed it - there is now no room for Nicholas Soames). Just shows how bloated government has become these days.

Cameron must have decided to abandon Michael Howard's "slimline"-style shadow cabinet and returned to the standard model.

Interesting to see Gerald Howarth working with Liam Fox at defence - DC must be happy to let the hawks run the show there!

Sorry, I know this isn't the time to groan, BUT ---- why has freshman MP michael Gove been put straight on the front bench? Theresa Villiers at least had the figleaf of having been an MEP, i.e. an elected politician, before she entered the commons. What's Gove's claim to this, as far as I can make out, unique advancement? He's the Leader's mate obviously, but why exactly does a former Times hack get promoted ***at once***? Does he have special gifts all the other new boys and girls lack? If so, what are they? Other than a track record of hostility, in print, to William Hague and Ian Duncan Smith, I'm not so sure what's so important about Gove's journalistic past. But clearly it's going to be a tight little circle of 'friends' running the Tory party for the next few years.

I'm suprised too that there has not been a more strategic job for Gove.Ideas seem to be his forte,I wonder how he will be able to develop them with this position.
I do hope Michael will prove to be an effective opponent to Prescott and prevent him destroying whats left of the greenbelt in the Southeast.
Cameron does on the whole seem to have created a shadow team of 'all the talents'as he said he would for which I'm delighted.

I would have liked to have seen something for Afriye or Vara but very pleased with Gove and Ellwood from the new bunch.

"I would have liked to have seen something for Afriye or Vara"

Simply because they're ethnic? This a good reason to give someone a job?

Having seen Michael Gove in action in the past I can assure you he is immensely qualified for the post and Michael against Prescott should be hilarious, can't wait!

Thank goodness DC has the good sense not to promote women and ethnics, simply for being in that group. I hope he has chosen people for their ability. To do otherwise would not only be unfair to those more able MPs, but it would ultimately damage the Party, as it would show up those who had been over-promoted.

Michael Gove should in future be known as the 'mister Bobby' of the front bench. All students of Blairism will get the reference.

Big difference 'Innocent'.Mandelson operated in secret and therefore had to have a pseudonym,Michael Gove is quite open about his ideas.

You think you've heard all Michael Gove's 'ideas' Malcolm? And they call me innocent . . .

No, I can't say I have.But it's you that calls yourself Innocent!

Not to bad 15 pro Davis MPs from the first round, I don't think the Clarke supporters will be to pleased?

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Article from Birmingham Post on Cameron's first Shadow Cabinet meeting. Interesting point is:

"The choice also puts the official Tory seal of approval on the Conservative coalition with the Liberal Democrats, which has been running Birmingham City Council since June 2004."

I must admit to being baffled by some of these negative comments about Gove. He's extremely smart, presentable, media-savvy, and is an enthusiastic promoter of the party. He is also (from personal experience as someone who has seen him debate and speak in public many times) an extremely fluent and competent debater. He will take the oppo apart if given half a chance and will do so with wit and charm... something that has too often been lacking from both sides of the house.
The argument that Gove isn't ready for a portfolio like this is exactly the same as the argument that our candidates must all have put in 20 years as an activist to the detriment of their careers and families. Sure, in many cases that would be nice, although often it's not practical as the demands of many major firms today for travel and availability are so high. It does rather select for a particular type of person, though. Refusing the opportunity to use top quality talent just because they've not worn enough of a hole in the green leather cushions yet seems to me to be a touch short-sighted.

Wet (well I assume you are if you're in the middle of the ocean) -

your points apply equally to the other newbies, my point remains: why (out of all of them) Gove (and Toby E)? And if it's because Gove is head and shoulders above all the rest in terms of 'talent', let's just briefly look at his CV - white, straight, middle class, Oxbridge-educated, central London dwelling and working prior to parliament (you'd have to guess). OR --- exactly the sort of candidate Leader Dave tells us he wants to see less of in future. Except in his own closed little circle of course. One rule for him, another rule for everyone else. Welcome to the all new, old school Tory party.

BTW you say you're puzzled by the negativism. I was saddened by Gove's repeated (and for us as a party, very damaging) negativism in print about our former leaders William Hague and Ian Duncan Smith. Presumably, given his past form in this regard, Gove's hardly going to mind a few people sounding off on an obscure website, even if it is about his mate, who has just fast tracked him.

I do have to agree with some of the above sentiments. Gove doesn't really offer the frontbench anything that a more experienced and more loyal MP couldn't offer. Has Vaizey got anything?

Nothing for Justine Greening either I see.

I share the bemusement at "Innocent Abroad's" attacks on Michael Gove. "Mid-Atlantic" is spot on about Gove's personal qualities.

"Innocent", I have noticed nothing Mandelsonian about Gove at all. Rather than resort to innuendo about some hidden agenda or set of ideas, why don't you just spell out what it is you are getting at? What are these terrible ideas that you think he has up his sleeve?

As for the suggestion that Gove has been promoted where other have not been - he is one of 5 new shadow ministers from this year's intake - 6 if you include Teresa Villiers. Why single Gove out from all the others who have been promoted?

Since he was selected as a candidate and an MP, Gove has done nothing to warrant accusations of disloyalty. Before then he was earning his living as a jobbing columnist on the Times. The idea that he had to be slavishly uncritical of the Party in that position flies in the face of reality. Besides which, in every other form of life, good friends need to be able to make honest criticism without fearing accusations of disloyalty.

I'm glad Tim Yeo and Nicholas Soames got nothing (I think that's right, isn't it?)

Sorry - it should have been 7 members of the new intake - David Mundell was appointed to Shadow SofS for Scotland as well.

No job for Geoffrey Cox :-(

Will Malcolm Rifkind head up the soon to be created "security" policy group, seeing as ex-cabinet secretaries seem to be in vogue...

Not likely Frank - Malc's anti-war stance leaves him wide open to 'soft-on-terror' accusations.

Peter: "I don't think the Clarke supporters will be to pleased?"
-sorry, didn't realise there were any Clarke supporters left nowadays??

"Will Malcolm Rifkind head up the soon to be created "security" policy group, seeing as ex-cabinet secretaries seem to be in vogue..."

"Not likely Frank - Malc's anti-war stance leaves him wide open to 'soft-on-terror' accusations."

What about the global justice (or whatever it was called) policy group?

What position did John Redwood get?

John Redwood is Chairman of the Party's Economic Competitiveness Policy Group.

So at least one task force is in a safe pair of hands...

I think it is very unfortunate that Nick Gibb has been appointed for the school reform position. He has been very critical of vouchers and increased private provision in education.

The clique around Cameron appear to have decided what they think about what the party's policy on tax and public services should be some time ago. And with the exception of police reform it is remarkably similar to that of the Labour Party.

If Nick Gibb is in charge of school reform, then I think we should conclude that for the time being there will be no school reform. Still there's a long way to go until 2009 so maybe, just maybe they will wake up to the fact that tax, spend, waste and fail is not the way forward. Perhaps we can also look forward to seeing less of Mr Gibb slagging off his Party in the pages of the Guardian and the Independent and telling us that the only way forward is the social democrat way.

Or maybe, Michael, the social democrat way is our new way forward?

"Change to Win!"

John Redwood is Chairman of the Party's Economic Competitiveness Policy Group.

Is that confirmed? I know he is a member of the Group. I'm not sure that he's its Chairman. But you're right, James, he would be a very safe pair of hands. He's certainly a low tax champion.

Will this do as confirmation?

I hope John Redwood is Chairman I dashed off and sent in my 500 word two-penneth to the policy committee.

It's a way of buying off Redwood, not some sort of latter day conversion to lower tax. Letwin will just take the ideas he likes, and decline the ones that don't.

The Right is being asked to accept a focus on deregulation in return for goinbg to the election not offering tax cuts. They would be stupid to accept a deal on those terms.

You make Letwin sound like Dictator of Policy rather than Director of Policy!

Unless I've missed something, Bercow has been completely passed over for an appointment. What a pity.

I'm sure The Monday Club will need a new cleaner at some stage.

Well there was Bercow's "Eton, hunting, shooting and lunch at Whites" outburst during the leadership election.

Bercow was right but can hardly now expect to be rewarded for saying it.

Is the Monday Club still in existance?I've heard nothing about it for years.

Indeed it does, Malcolm.

"You make Letwin sound like Dictator of Policy rather than Director of Policy!"

Do you seriously believe there is going to be a collegiate view taken about key aspects of party policy eg Redwood will be listened to if he says tax cuts should be in the party's election manifesto?

"Do you seriously believe there is going to be a collegiate view taken about key aspects of party policy?"

Do I believe there will? No. Do I believe there should be as Cameron has no mandate for policies? Yes.

"Do I believe there will? No. Do I believe there should be as Cameron has no mandate for policies? Yes."

Fair enough. We are in agreement. Some of the naivite about how policy will be decided uner Cameron is pretty amazing I think.

Interesting. Someone calling themselves 'Sceptic' makes an anti-Gove observation relating to his supposed disloyalty to Hague and IDS. Soon after, resident bile merchant 'Innocent Abroad' says "BTW you say you're puzzled by the negativism. I was saddened by Gove's repeated (and for us as a party, very damaging) negativism in print about our former leaders William Hague and Ian Duncan Smith."

So Sceptic is a cover name for Innocent Abroad. But who is IA?

Anyone who studies IA's previous posts on Conservative Home and who is also familiar with a late, unlamented right-wing website will recognise uncanny stylistic similarities.

What positive contribution to the Tory cause has the editor of that website ever made?

Not a lot. But, like a dog in search of a lampost, he chooses to vent his spleen on Michael Gove, a man whose character and intellect are far superior to his own.

I have always disliked Michael Gove. I used to cringe at his moralising on the Radio 4 show 'The Moral Maze' which he participated with Melanie Philips (don't get me started....) on. He should not be walking straight onto the front bench, nor should Villiers. Why didn't Dominic Grieve get a Shadow Cabinet job? He is a wonderful front bencher performer and deserved it more than Villiers. Oh! I forgot - he isn't part of the inner circle.

Seems to me that Cameron has got a good balance of talent in the cabinet. I also think that he will be more right wing than we think. Davies certainly seems to have warmed to him during the leadership contest, as the Editors review piece pointed out.

Lord Luke appointed as Shadow Defence Secretary!! See shadow ministers section of "People" on party website. Fox sacked already?

Or a CCO cock up.

Can't get the staff, you know.

Clare Lewis asks "Why didn't Dominic Grieve get a Shadow Cabinet job?"

Because he didn't deserve it. Grieve has been the principal supporter of Blair's toxic Human Rights Act on the Conservative benches. How many vile leftist rulings have been handed down by politicised judges in the name of HRA? THe act empowers them to defy Parliament and enact a left wing agenda the British people would never vote for.

Grieve's complicity in defending the HRA is outrageous. Thank goodness his career has now stalled.

Gove's always seemed very impressive, although I wonder if he's got a bit of a "Tory Boy" image. I'm sure he'll be a hugely effective minister in government one day. Yes, he's a friend of Cameron but on the flip side but one assumes there's a reason he's a friend of Cameron. Appointing talented like-minded people to positions is sensible -- not exclusively of course, and there's plenty of other groups represented here. Pleased to see Mark Harper there. Astonished to see Andrew Rosindell -- not someone I would have expected to get into a Cameron frontbench at all, even in the most junior position.

No Julie Kirkbride, Shailesh Vara and Adam Afriyie is conspicuous. I don't think they deserve places without merit, but then again all three struck me as pretty impressive. I'll be interested to see if they get jobs elsewhere, perhaps on the policy units.

"Astonished to see Andrew Rosindell -- not someone I would have expected to get into a Cameron frontbench at all, even in the most junior position."

The Whips Office is to keep him quiet and loyal.

It looks like DD picked his own Home Affairs team. He has a bright loyal team there, or perhaps it is keeping his loyal supporters close in case another leadership campaign is needed in a few years?

Tory leader David Cameron's desire to feminise the party had a hollow ring to it among friends of Julie Kirkbride today.

The Bromsgrove MP was a backer of David Davis, yet had been expected to get a job on the new front bench.

MPs have been told that the reason Ms Kirkbrie was left out was because she "has young children" to look after.

"So much for the new era under non-sexist Cameron" muttered one Tory.

Apologies - meant to say the above info was from tonight's Evening Standard.

Going back to the Editor's original request, I've just seen some pretty good coverage of Dave C and the Shadow Cabinet meeting in Birmingham on Central News.

Kirkbride was doing some pretty impressive grovelling on Five Live as the results were announced. Too little, too late evidently...

That is a pity. I do think she deserved at least a junior portfolio.


At the risk of being rude she made her decision to back Davis when it looked an absolute cert that he would win. She is an unlikely ally of "the right" and for that reason i suspect she was willing to be used, as she was, by the davis camp in return for a plummy job. Hard cheese her, I have little sympathy.

So, to recap, notably no frontbench jobs for:

Julie Kirkbride
Ed Vaizey
Ann Widdecombe
Derek Conway
John Bercow
Tim Yeo
John Redwood
Richard Spring
Andrew Tyrie
Peter Luff

Anyone missing?

Goldie - Redwood was appointed to head one of the policy commissions, as was Ken Clarke. Not Shadow Cabinet level, but still fairly important.

Goldie- others missing are Shailesh Vara, Justine Greening and Adam Afiyie, all were of media focus in the immidiate aftermath of the election anyway.

Yes, but Redwood was nonetheless booted from the frontbech and I doubt that's what he wanted.

I didn't include 'the class of 2005' because it's not strange for such new MPs not to be promoted to the frontbench immediately, the contrary being the case.

Widdecombe is retiring.

Coxy you tell that to the other 37mps who supported him.

The following are now Vice Chaimen:-

Justine Greening MP (Youth)
Margot James (Women)
Grant Shapps MP (Campaigning)
Sayeeda Warsi (Cities)

"So Sceptic is a cover name for Innocent Abroad. But who is IA?

Anyone who studies IA's previous posts on Conservative Home and who is also familiar with a late, unlamented right-wing website will recognise uncanny stylistic similarities."

According to Michael Smithson (a known Liberal Democrat) at PoliticalBetting.com, Innocent Abroad is actually a chap called Mike Killingworth. Given the fact that the so-called Innocent Abroad fraternises openly with confirmed Liberal Democrats, are we to assume this is where his true political allegiance lies and that we have a Lib Dem troll masquerading as a Conservative in our midst? I hope not, as IA's new blog has taken on the non-Cameronite mantle from the blog I used to edit.


I think that more than one person calls himself "Innocent Abroad."

The appointment of Damian Green as Immigration minister is a mistake.

Green is a whet.

Does this signal yet another Cameron capitulation?

"Unless I've missed something, Bercow has been completely passed over for an appointment. What a pity."

Bercow wrote an article in the Independent criticising Tory immigration policy in 2005 even though it had the most public backing.

He comes across as a rather patronising moderniser who gives the impression of sneering at traditional Tories.

Give Damian Green time Goldie, when he was Transport Minister the subject was in the media and being discussed, he raised the profile of the Industry and began to create changes in attitudes to speed cameras being used as cash generators rather than safety cameras to alert people of dangerous areas. He argued for clear road signs to slow people down naturally and forced the government to listen.

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