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07/04/2013

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David Lawrence

Young and old alike.
Can the over 65s join the Young Conservatives.
Together we may make those in middle age think more.

radsatser

You can only renew something if you think it is broken or decrepit.

As far as I can see, the perception is that the cheap cardboard house that has been built in recent years is still infinitely superior to the property that had survived centuries, you knocked down to build it, it just needs a coat of paint to hide the rapidly forming cracks in not the facade, but the structure.

JohnLilburne12

'The environment, and the nonsense of building unconfirmed scientific theories into a political program. All the thinking on this issue has been conducted according to the narrow agenda of people with trans-national ambitions and a deep disregard for home, settlement and the nation state.'

What nonsense! I find your lack of scientific nous to be astonishing, given that you are an academic - albeit one who is rather woolly in your thinking.

'conducted according to the narrow agenda of people with trans-national ambitions and a deep disregard for home, settlement and the nation state.' Modern 'Conservatism' worships the abstract concept of the market to appease the people with trans-national ambitions and a deep disregard for home, settlement and the nation state. Get back to your ivory tower and write something more sensible.

adrian clarke

Its all there. The areas Conservatives need to think about and remember their core support. Unfortunately except in a couple of areas they lost all semblance of thought when they decided to elect a Blair clone( a poor one at that) as their leader.
There is now nothing to choose between Lab/Lib/Con except how to spend the money we don't have. All the same over the EU, sovereignty, political correctness. The list is endless.
No wonder UKIP are taking votes. We are the only party that speaks for the silent majority

Allectus99

Scruton makes a good point. There is a certain kind of conservatism, usually espoused by those on the left of the Conservative Party, whose intellectual roots run through Sir Ian Gilmour and Michael Oakeshott back to the "trimming" Marquess of Halifax at the beginning of the eighteenth century, that:

1) seems to attribute a value to institutions simply because they exist, and without regard to how they came into being, how well they perform their functions, or whether their supposed "functions" are actually socially necessarily or desirable at all;

2) seems to accept change as inevitable, but not as something that conservatives themselves should initiate or sponsor (although they should remain completely free to jump on the bandwagon once somebody else has dictated the direction of change); and

3) seems to boil down to little more than political opportunism, unencumbered by "dogma" (or what ordinary people call principles), whose raison d'etre is gaining and retaining political power.

To my mind, this kind of conservatism is bankrupt in modern politics. There is certainly a case for resisting radical change to institutions that have evolved organically and piecemeal over long periods of time (our language and culture, our traditional built environment and countryside, our demographics), and which perform their functions largely successfully (the House of Lords and the monarchy are a case in point), but the trouble is that there are few areas untouched by the frenzy of half-baked meddling legislation from the post-war period to date, and that to claim that institutions created by this flawed and haphazard process are somehow worthy of preservation simply by virtue of their lazy acceptance by the New Establishment is complete nonsense.

Change is inevitable, and often desirable; but conservatives shouldn't be afraid to oppose undesirable change, or to advocate the reversal of harmful innovations (same-sex marriage and civil partnerships), simply because they are fashionable in New Establishment circles.

Conservatives who abdicate responsibility for initiating and driving radical change of their own (like the pre-Thatcher post-war Tories or the neo-Blairite Tory "modernisers") lose control of the political agenda, and lose sight of the institutions and values which it ought to be goal of every conservative to preserve. There's more to politics than gaining and retaining political power.

Scruton is right to criticise the moral and intellectual drift that characterised the Conservative Party after (and before) 1997: but it is important to see through the myth that the Tory "modernisation" project represented some kind of intellectual renaissance for the right, rather than just a lazy and opportunistic re-branding of discredited New Labour thinking. The right still have a lot of thinking to do and I wish the organisers of the Conference every success.

Prodicuss

Thank God for Scruton.

RutlandReliable

This is an excellent agenda for a proper debate about real Conservatism.

David Belchamber

Thought before action is certainly desirable but I would plead specifically for a statement (or restatement) of the fundamental principles on which a modern, fair and progressive conservative government should be based.

Donald Burling

David Cameron gained the leadership of the party on a platform of social concern, which presumably the majority of grass-roots members approved of. Unfortunately since his coming into office that seems to have been forgotten.

The compassionate Conservative tradition exemplified by Lord Shaftesbury is in no way egalitarian, but it does pursue reasonalble justice for the poor.

Paul Harris

What worries me are those policies that are sold as one thing and yet the plan behind them is something far more sinister.

The ones troubling me at the moment are:

1) ‘Gay marriage’ and the ulterior motive of promoting sexual dysfunction coupled with the agenda to destroy real marriage and the Christen church in one go. The pornography agenda is linked to this as well. It creates the ‘demand’.

2) Welfare reform. The real reason is to transfer money from the needy and put it into private corporate business that is there to brainwash the victims. The Work Programme is highly dodgy and also I think it is a plan to reduce working conditions for everyone by forced labour, and to transfer labour resources to the government ‘charity’ sector, which is again mostly used to brainwash people. Even political think tanks are charities now.

3) Transferring money from welfare to policing. The extremely harsh sanctions regime is forcing people to turn to crime to eat. More money is therefore being wasted on police and now mega prisons are being built. This is extremely worrying. We are in the territory of the beginnings of Nazi Germany here. It’s all promoted through distortions in the popular press. The belief is that anyone can easily get a job and that they are simply lazy.

4) Subsidy to industry + creating jobs. This will give rise to the non-job and impinge badly on the economy by promoting inefficiency.

5) The government’s obedience to international agendas of the UN and the EU. Agenda 21 is of particular concern.

6) The rising level of immigration. Those who came to this country to do work should never be given British nationality and nor should their offspring. We need to revoke British nationality for those people. We need to send them back home or we will end up losing our country. The birthrates of Third Worlders is frightening. We are talking exponential increases here.

Phil Kean

Would this "Conservative Thinker" be welcome?

:-)

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Aidy_lewis

Roger Scruton is the philosopher of our time, not Derrida or Foucault.

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