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Tony Makara

If anyone lives outside of London and they have Virgin Media cable they can still watch this on channel '853' which carries ITV London across the whole country. You must watch the '853' channel though and not your local '103' ITV channel.

Tony Makara

Just been looking around and it seems SKY carry ITV London across the country too on channel '993'. So hopefully most of the nation can watch Boris and the red one tonight.

Arthurian Legend

I'll speculate now - 21.

Simon Chapman

19

Simon Chapman

My guess is 19.

I loved this comment under Boris's last article:

Good luck, Boris. Just a couple of words of warning (and bear in mind, this is from Wikipedia, so it may be a load of rubbish, or even disinformation put about by the Grand Newt's bureau of propaganda):

1: "[Newts] have the ability to regenerate limbs, eyes, spinal cords, hearts, intestines, and upper and lower jaws."

I'm not sure what that leaves, but probably best if you don't give up after delivering just one "mortal blow".

2: "Many newts produce toxins in their skin secretions as a defense mechanism against predators... In order to cause harm, the toxins have to enter the body by being ingested or entering a break in the skin."

There's going to be a lot of poison. But it can only harm you if you swallow it.

Thirdly, and this one from Dad's Army, remember that they don't like it up 'em.
Posted by Xan on January 10, 2008 8:47 AM

Simon Chapman

My guess is 19.

I loved this comment under Boris's last article:

Good luck, Boris. Just a couple of words of warning (and bear in mind, this is from Wikipedia, so it may be a load of rubbish, or even disinformation put about by the Grand Newt's bureau of propaganda):

1: "[Newts] have the ability to regenerate limbs, eyes, spinal cords, hearts, intestines, and upper and lower jaws."

I'm not sure what that leaves, but probably best if you don't give up after delivering just one "mortal blow".

2: "Many newts produce toxins in their skin secretions as a defense mechanism against predators... In order to cause harm, the toxins have to enter the body by being ingested or entering a break in the skin."

There's going to be a lot of poison. But it can only harm you if you swallow it.

Thirdly, and this one from Dad's Army, remember that they don't like it up 'em.
Posted by Xan on January 10, 2008 8:47 AM

Tony Makara

I don't drink so if I win you can pass the bottle on to the next nearest guess. I think Thatcherism will get '8' references.

Giles McNeill

13.

- Alas I don't live in London so will make my guess now.

John Adlington

I reckon 15

graeme archer

reserving the right to re-vote later, after the programme, in the best dave spart tradition, I prophesise at least 9,675,492 mentions of "Thatcher" from the Ian Blair loving, unforgivably corrupt, transportatonally incompetent, anti-Semitic, balkanising Leninist who is currently, but temporally, Mayor. According to the Standard, he blames Thatcher for the crime wave over which he and Ian Blair have presided, you know, the one that killed 27 London children last year.

Now let's get rid of him.

Tony Makara

Graeme Archer, I'd say Livingstone is more Trotsky/Gramsci than Lenin. At least Lenin showed he was a pragmatist after collectivized farming had failed. Ken Livingstone is someone who doesn't learn from his mistakes. He is a man in a looney-left loop.

Margaret on the Guillotine

I guess 12. What a bloody awful man Livingstone is, and his self-propagandising on the Tube etc is basically an abuse of office. The sooner Boris gets him out the better, even though the Tories did have better potential candidates.

Comstock

Legs eleven for me. For those outside London this is on the ITV webstream at ITV.com (just click to watch ITV1 live) Do it a few minutes before 11, because you have to watch a few ads before you get the live stream

kow tow

Boris still needs to get himself a proper experienced press team to get the message across.

Its just not happening!

Comstock

Ooh this looks like a corker, London Tonight has just shown highlights.

David Hayes

Well it's about an hour long so I reckon about 28

Tony Makara

Just a little warning to anyone that plans to watch Boris online at the ITV website, the ITV player doesn't open up if you use 'Firefox' so you'll need to watch it through Microsoft Explorer. Alternately its also on regular TV nationwide:

VIRGIN CABLE CHANNEL 853
SKY TV CHANNEL 993

Dominic Harvey

A somewhat conservative estimate here - seven.

Comstock

Yes, Tony, ITV.com doesn't like anything but Internet Explorer :(

Tony Makara

Comstock, its a ridiculous situation. The same thing applies to the BBC player. It seems the more the internet advances the more it goes backwards. I don't know about you but the internet was a lot easier to use five years ago. Have you ever tried using the Beta version of Yahoo mail? Its dreadful and continually crashes me and I have a top whack connection speed! Beta real player isn't that great either, although it does allow me to record from You Tube I suppose.

Peter Bancroft

ITV are sayin the programme is not available. This is absolutley ridiculous.

I wonder if anyone at conhome can get the video up online on either youtube or playpolitical or can give us a link to see it.

It's a real shame as I was looking forward to this all day , I don't currently have a TV, but I am a londoner.

Jonathan Hoffman

I heard only 1 mention of Thatcher/Thatcherism from Ken.

Boris was great, so were his supporters.

Ken is in the Departure Lounge.

There is a G-d.

Giovanni

I think Boris wasn't as crushing as he could be. He allows the hecklers to engage him and takes them on, which is good and brave, but detracts time from his replies. Paddick's question to him was rather naive, were I Boris I would have turned it against him: P - "Boris, if you've never been a policeman how can you talk about crime?" B- "Brian, in that case, if all you've ever been is "only" a policeman, how can you talk about health, housing, traffic?"
Livingstone is still stuck in the 80s and his clacque in the audience were his attack dogs.

Lots of venom against Boris though, Labour must be really really scared. Rather concerned of the way Lib-Dems joined in, I wouldn't want the second preferences to cost us the Mayoralty come May...

Tony Makara

I thought Ken Livingstone looked tired and lacked fight. He was especially rattled over the two-terms question. Boris got the crowd going which was great. Especially liked the passion when Boris talked about gang crime. Who on earth was Mr motormouth in the front row with the Labour rosette? He only wanted to heckle and was clearly put there as a spoiling tactic by red Ken.

Dave

I'd say 4 mentions of Thatcherism + 80's, and quite a few more indirect mentions of it. So I'm going to say 4.

Tony Makara

Ken Livingstone really looked out of date on that programme. Like a 1980s throwback. Thats where his mind is rooted, still fighting the battles of the GLC in his head. In contrast Boris looked up to speed and in touch with what is going on.

Dale

27

John

27

Dale

32, I have a feeling about that number.

Richard

What an awful programme it was! The audience was awful as was the poor women chairing the event. Boris cam out of it okay, but he will need to do much better in future.

Tony Makara

Richard, good point about the audience. The Labour supporters had clearly been chosen for their ability to be vocal and heckle, interesting to see the Liberals siding with Labour as Boris pointed out. Only the Conservative supporters looked like average people, the rest looked like party functionaries sent on an anti-Boris wrecking mission.

WG Graceless

How much fun was that though?!

Paddick was more wooden than an Ikea table nest and looked at his notes the whole night.

Ken whined at Boris about every little detail and - his answer to 27 kids dying while he sits atop his commode in City Hall? - Thatcher and the Media! He needs a better answer than that.

Boris was great; feisty, funny and passionate. This was supposed to be Ken's platform and Boris wiped the floor with him.

The campaign has some real energy now. I hope all you critics watched last night!

Simon Chapman

So what's the answer & who's the winner?

Deputy Editor

OK so there wasn't as many as there was said to be!

The Boris campaign reckon there was three mentions.

That makes Dave the winner, Jonathan Hoffman runner-up and Dominic Harvey third. I'll contact Jonathan for his address (then Dominic) if I dont hear back from Dave.

p.s. Apparently there were two female Labour MPs in the audience!

Stephen Warrick

My guess - 16.

COME ON BORIS!!!

snegchui

Watched this with interest. Easy from the sofa. Ken is on a kind of winner with a swathe of the electorate about Maggie - there is still a visceral legacy. Guess it matters which agegroups turn out in numbers. Think Boris needs to have a line on Andrew Mac's toppling and the set-to battles that Ken indulged in. Shortage of funds because of Maggie, really? How much for Nuclear free zones and twinning with Moscow suburbs and reciprocal visits? How much for political carping? What did people vote FOR in 1981 , what did they get? Success Travelcards, but remember special levy on the rates and then doubling in price. Congestion charge? Has the necessary increase in flexibility and provision of public transport occurred? I don't think so. Boris flapping about saying ridiculous was not effective. Maggie's dereg of the City is what is funding London growth now. Need to get that across, because if Red Ken (as he was then) had his way, it would never have happened. Boris looked a bit flustered and seemed to flounder when under the personal attack about Conrad Black et al. In short seemed unprepared and a bit too casual. His claim at the end to produce "beautiful ?? (not sure of the term he used) policies indicated to me that HE personally will not be too involved or take ownership, his team will. Let us hope he has a good team. Paddick, came across the best in dealing with detail (but that is not saying much) but did he really know the names of all 20,000 people he led into battle against crime? Why all hissy-fit politicking at his departure? His figures are suspect too, if you attract more dealers to your area, you have more chance of arresting more, true, but if they are street dealers only, this is just churn and not fixing the problem. I want Boris to win but unless he and his team improve their homework on themselves and prepare defences and improve on the weaknesses of the opposition. I can't see him doing it. Boris is vulnerable to charges of clowning and casualness and last night reinforced it.

Deputy Editor

This ITV link should work.

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