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RU Serious

Is Julian Grainger serious? Cllr Fawthrop does not have executive responsibility in his Conservative controlled borough. According to Bromley Council's website, he is only on one sub-committee.

Cllr Fawthrop is not a credible candidate for the Conservative Mayoral nominiation. This is another wannabe on an ego trip.

The Conservative candidate will face competition not only from Red Ken but probably well known candidates such as John Bird, Nick Ferrari and James Whale. We therefore need a well-known and experiences heavyweight candidate. Otherwise, Conservative voters will flock to the "celebrity" alternatives.

J Smythe

Never heard of him.

How exactly is he a credible candidate?

Not Brian Coleman

''The Conservative candidate will face competition not only from Red Ken but probably well known candidates such as John Bird, Nick Ferrari and James Whale''

Incredibly well known aren't they?

I wonder how many people in London, inner or outer, have heard of John Bird or James Whale?’’

Not very many I would have thought.

Try reorganising these words into a coherent sentence...

Before - speak - you – think

Kevin

R U Serious - I agree.

Simon Fawthrop is a not a serious contender and his manifesto reads like one of those hilarious long-winded moaning monalogues that Victor Meldrew used to give on One Foot in the Grave.

We need to accept (as Steve Norris does) that there are great strategic challenges in London eg. transport that are best tackled by a London-wide mayor and GLA rather than devolving everything to the boroughs. The key to our winning the mayoralty is to develop the right kind of strategic vision for London that will strike a popular chord against Livingstone's approach. A mottley assortment of moans and groans will not inspire floating voters to vote for us, and we need a heavyweight candidate with credibility and good name recognition.

Justin Hinchcliffe

I agree with Kevin. Is Simon Fawthrop too grand to promote himself? Please, Simon, don't waste your or our time.

groan

Groan.

Graham D'Amiral

To be fair to Simon at least he has shown the guts to put himself forward and set out his own vision. Hopefully others will come forward and we can make a judgement about their merits.

I think some people are a little to obsessed with the search for a "name" for me the first priority is are they any good.

Matt Davis

Agree totally with Kevin because it doesn't matter how good the candidate may be if we can't get them elected in the first place. We've got to get serious about winning the Mayoralty and that does mean finding a credible candidate with existing, good, London wide name recognition as well as the skills necessary to actually run London. So far the only person who fits that bill is Norris, whether we like it or not.

Al Gunn

Everyone's heard of James Whale...

comstock

Either go with Norris or stand aside and back Bird. I can't see any other serious proposal.

Gill

What is a "serious" candidate?
A minor celebrity with no coherent policies - or an experienced but lower profile politician who has front-line experience?

Any candidate who emerges from the selection process will become "known".
(Outside Westminster, who'd heard of David Cameron a couple of years ago??)

With Steve Norris, the Conservatives have tried the "known" approach - twice - but Steve just didn't "get it" when it came to motivating the suburbs. He came across just as Zone 1 as Livingstone.

And as for celebrities - in a 40% (or less) turnout election, is it safe to to rely on the readers of Hello and OK - or would it be better to maximise the Conservative vote - which is mainly in outer London?

The funny thing is, many of the "unknowns" seem to be saying similar things to Simon Fawthrop - return decisions to local people - TfL is unaccountable etc.

Personally I'm not to bothered WHO the candidate is as long as they reign back the GLA.

"Communities First" - Why didn't someone else think of that?

comstock

Any candidate who emerges from the selection process will become "known".
(Outside Westminster, who'd heard of David Cameron a couple of years ago??)


Cameron has had massive national media exposure. The 'shadow' mayoral candidate will be lucky to get a couple of paragraphs in the national papers or a few seconds on the news(not relevant to 90% of readers/viewers) and you will need to rely on 'local' media, which not everyone watches/reads.

And he/she would be up against Ken's cult of personality- this election is very much about the candidate over the party.

Finally, your point about GLA/TfL is interesting. 10 years ago people were saying the biggest problem with London was the lack of a central body/leader because everthing was devolved down to boroughs post GLC...........what was that about you can't please all the people all the time :D

And thats more than enough from me for one day! ;)

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