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        Todd Lindsay

        The Culture of Death

        So this is where the great road to socialism takes us.

        It is a descent into the insanity of the culture of death, and it must by all means be resisted. It is the inevitable extension of socialism and elitism that the death of human will must transpire. Those who rebel against God seek to replace Him with themselves. In their own desperate resentful rage against God, they can only take life, never give it. So they establish a cult of death so as to be "God like." It is sad and tragic, for God so loves them that He gave His only begotten Son, that we might live.

        Teri must die. The weak must die. The Pope must die.

        Yes.

        And of course all the babies and anyone who must be "nutrition assisted by artificial means"; such as in the use of a spoon, must be dispatched also.

        We will, however, take hope, for our Heavenly Father knows of this suffering, for He suffers it with us...and we shall prevail with the greater power of love and compassion, that those who seek to extinguish our lives might live and be liberated from their suffering. Pity them, for they know not what they do.

        devilstar

        The Schiavo great divide
        It's obvious that arguments about Terri Schiavo fall into two main camps.

        http://www.donaldsensing.com/2005/03/schiavo-great-divide.html>http://www.donaldsensing.com/2005/03/schiavo-great-divide.html

        http://instapundit.com/archives/022046.php>http://instapundit.com/archives/022046.php

        http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=15186_Todays_Schiavo_Thread&only=yes>http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=15186_Todays_Schiavo_Thread&only=yes

        "Characterizing adherents of my position that way certainly came as a surprise to radio host Neal Boortz, whose latest book is entitled, The Terrible Truth About Liberals, and who wrote on Townhall.com that he agrees the tube should have been removed. "

        With thanks to :

        www.coxandforkum.com

        devilstar

        i.e. This is not a left / right issue.

        Anonymous

        This blog, the remarks about socialism being some kind of death cult and the whole tone of this 'honest' journalism is really disturbing.

        There are some sick people out there and I really regret having my brain soiled with your thoughts and opinions.

        Editor

        With regard to the posting from 'Anonymous' this blog doesn't suggest that all socialists are involved in some "kind of death cult".

        It is true, however, that the majority of votes for abortion come from the Labour or US Democratic Party ranks. Equally it is a Labour government that is attempting to introduce a form of backdoor euthanasia with its Mental Capacity Bill and it was US Republicans who, in the Terri Schiavo case, urged judges - without success - to "err on the side of life".

        I certainly pay tribute to left-wingers like http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/03/30/jackson_joins_schiavo_parents_fight/>Jesse Jackson who did fight to save Mrs Schiavo's life. Unfortunately Rev'd Jackson was an exceptional representative of a left-wing that constantly trumpets its advocacy of vulnerable people but fails to protect the very vulnerable unborn and severely disabled.

        eddie reader

        I think it is really significant that the Conservatives and Republican right are only intersted in human life when it is in the womb - a mere 9 months. Couldn't be to do with the fact that only women have wombs could it?

        As for Terry Schiavo - a dreadful case but sorted in the courts, although dirty politicians did try and get in on the act. And by the way, wasn't there a similar case in the UK when Michael Howard was in the last Conservative government to do with a Liverpool fan, Tony Bland, injured at Hillsborough?

        The US has over 20% of its children living below the povety line compared with a European average of about 7-8%, needlesss to say that once again the UK is one of the worst European countries with 15% living below the poverty line.

        Of course this completely ignores the tens of thousands of children that died in Iraq during the US/UK sanctions period. A situation that caused one UN official to resign and attack the US and UK for acts of genocide.

        You only regard human life as sacred when it suits you. You dreadful, dreadful hypocrites.

        Editor

        'Eddie Reader' doesn't seem to have read the posting on which he has poured such excitable language. The whole point of the posting was to acknowledge that conservatives are understanding that being pro-life must mean being much more energetic and committed to a pro-poor message.

        'Eddie' is out-of-date. Compassionate conservatism - and its emphasis on school choice, stronger families, faith-based social action and zero tolerance of crime - has been conservatism's attempt to find a way of delivering social justice. And unlike left-wing 'solutions' to poverty, right-wing ideas lift people out of poverty - rather than making them dependent on an ever fatter welfare state bureaucracy.

        While the right seeks to ensure its pro-life agenda has a pro-poor character, the vast majority of left-wing politicians (please forgive the slightly outdated right/left labels) show no interest in including the unborn and 'candidates for euthanasia' (the very sick and the very disabled) in society's circle of care.

        Only a couple of weeks ago Tony Blair said that he didn't think abortion should be an election issue. Shame on him.

        eddie reader

        Another day, another laugh. Let's shine a light on your distorted world.
        'Compassionate Conservatism' is a nice meaningless marketing phrase - just what you would expect from politicians and especially American ones. Using
        alliteration (always attractive) and prefixing a negative word, 'Conservatism', with a positive one, 'Compassionate', you end up with a nice phrase that trips lightly off the tongue. Just as meaningless as 'Clever Conservatives' or 'Thoughtful Tories'.
        Choice, be it of school, supermarket or sexual partner, requires alternatives. I haven't noticed the Tories talking about changing planning regulations to allow more schools to open so that choice can be satisfied. That I would like. Although I have heard them express their 'compassion' for those who lead a nomadic life and the need for planning change there. With compassion like that a bit of thought is required.
        Why faith-based anything? At some point any argument with a religous person is likely to end up with a position dictated by a holy book. End of argument, full stop, period, brick wall. No real chance of imaginative action there. And of course which faith fits all of society? Or doesn't it matter?
        Back though to the central point, the obsession the religous right has with the unborn child. The current president needs money to fight his wars, not quite sure what use a Stealth bomber is against guerillas but never mind. So guess what, no to tax rises yes to cuts in Medicare. During the 'compassionate' Reagan era, when the Republicans discovered religion and one the current President aims to emulate, infant mortaility rose in the US such that the US fell from 20th place to 23rd in world rankings. Terrific compassion from such rich people.
        Black infants in 1990 were 2.4 times more likely to die than white ones (guess which one is the poorer) in the first year of life. These were almost totally due to poor perinatal care. I'm no NHS fan but it does do perinatal care quite well. Of course, and no Tory wants to hear this, as in so much else want the job done right go to Europe. So I come to the same conclusion - the womb only matters because a woman has one.
        So once out of the womb, or even in it, if it costs tax dollars get lost. Better to get down and pray. Only thing is you're not praying to God you're praying to Mammon. As Christ noted the poor will always be with us - they just don't need to be impoverished.

        devilstar

        How irritating this blog is faith based. I had my hopes set high for decent new conservative blog that would be progressive and insightful. Fat chance...

        Editor

        It is not surprising that 'Devilstar' would object to this website's sympathy for faith-based social action.

        Not all conservatives are religious but the vast majority will recognise that faith provides most people with a great sense of identity, security, belonging and, above all other things, hope.

        Religious people provide the charitable sector with a disproportionate share of its money and volunteers. Churches have led recent campaigns against third world debt. Faith-based schools attract hundreds of thousands of parents who rarely attend a place of worship but want their children to receive a values-based education (and, yes, 'Eddie Reader', the Tories plan significant investment in enlarging school choice).

        A conservative sympathy for religious values does not mean support for a theocracy. Conservatives oppose such religious domination in the same way we oppose the kind of secular fundamentalism* that has excluded the likes of Rocco Buttiglione from the EU Commission.

        'Devilstar' talks of progress. Well, returning to the theme of this posting, if the liberal idea of progress is the termination of 180,000 unborn UK lives and the starvation to death of the vulnerable Terri Schiavo, it's a perverted of progress.

        devilstar

        So this is about abortion and euthansia isn't it? Which the relgious right vehemently oppose; regardless of circumstances.

        Please, please keep Religion out of politics! Why? Because Religion is based on scriptures that are thousands of years old. It is quite amazing the religious think they have the stranglehold on ethics when they're religious priests commit such digsuting acts time and time again.

        I am all for values, especially Christian values, of compassion - which is open to interpretation. In my opinion compassion encompasses everything it is to be human. Compassion to end suffering. And if you're so damned religious - then surely Terri (RIP) will be walking with Jesus now?

        Seems like the compassionate religious want to keep people alive even though their brains died in 1990 - sacrificing human dignity in the name of ideology. In my opinion this is just pathetic.

        I await the oh so rational religious (ahem) amongst you to label me an evil Nazi thats wants to destory the human race or some other male bovine rubbish. Get a grip.

        phil

        Politics & religions should not be mixed together. But society & religion can be - all societies are influenced by religions. Most of western countries are close to christian values, while north africa &V middle east countries are close to muslim values.

        In this context, laws must respect the values reflected by a society. So..indirectly, religions must be taken into account when one wants to takle these issues.

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        Guy

        Same old same old. Devilstar and Eddie Reader have a constructed of socio-political principles, most of which (from a theological perspective) involve man usurping God's authority. They demand that these principles are the ones that Christan churches should teach and support, or the churches themselves are not valid. Sadly, there are churches out there who have listened to this "progressive" siren song and are now facing extinction (Anglicans, Methodist and the Unitarianis).

        The fact is that abortion and euthanisia are immoral acts, legalized murder. Christians believe that good will ultimately triumph, which is why we all know in our hearts that one day the unborn and the sick WILL be protected. The pro-death lobby also knows this deep down which is why it is so aggressive. Yet, the history of man should teach us that evil will be vanquished. Who would have thought during their heydey that slavery, Communism, Nazism and all the other monstrosites we humans have perpetrated would have been vanquished? Yes Christians hoped and prayed that they would be and their prayers were answered. As they will be with our generation's monstrosity, the murder of the weak and the defenceless.

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