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bluepatriot

At long last ---- A beat-Ken plan that might work!

Wellness

What a very very silly thing to do. Makes us look like sixthformers, and hands Ken a fantastic publicity coup....crap tory tactics as usual

Jack Stone

If Ken is to be beaten he should be beaten through the ballot box. This sort of nonsense just makes us seem undemocratic.

Lindsay Jenkins

Excellent news. Works well in the US, and when one man has so much power as the London Mayor, its essential.

Chelloveck

Let's get this straight, the Tories are so desperate to beat Ken, they are willing to fiddle the electoral process to defeat a democratically elected Mayor?

Boy, I hope the response to this one is bad.

Well that's localism out of the window...

come off it

This kind of nonsense is exactly the source of his popularity. He whines about stuff like this instead of getting on with sorting out London's problems. When will everyone learn from Mrs. Thatcher's and Mr. Blair's mistake? Rigging the rules against him strengthens rather than weakens his appeal. That's why he has successfully outlived two of Britain's most outstanding politicians.

Let's hope no Conservatives were involved in this, and, if they were, that they are disciplined by the party leadership.

CDM

We can't win, so we'll change the rules.

This is Lib Demmery of the worst kind!

Bob B

The fundamental issue is surely not one of finding a stick to beat Livingstone but of whether it makes good democratic sense to have constitutional limits on the maximum period any individual can hold a politically powerful position.

The Presidents of the US and France are retricted by the respective national constitutions of those countries to serving a maximum of two terms. In the news recently, there's been a question of whether Putin would attempt to remove constitutional restrictions on him seeking re-election to the Russian presidency to serve a third term and, to the relief of many, he has said that he won't.

I think it will be sad if Labour in the Commons uses its majority remove the very sensible amendment of the Lords to the Greater London Authority Bill.

The Huntsman

This is about as dumb as the Freedom of Information (Amendment) Bill. It is guaranteed to offend any democrat of whatever hue.
Some people never learn.

Matt Davis

Whilst I would strongly support a term limit on the London Mayoralty, whoever was the incumbent, this wasn't the way to go about it unfortunately. As others have said above it has merely handed Livingstone a publicity coup, cemented his public image as the underdog and people's champion and, worst of all, it won't stick and so just makes us look silly and as if we don't think we can beat him electorally.

If only the same effort was being put into getting the right candidate, along with a good campaign and decent funding for it organised, then we might well be looking at beating him next year.

mike clarke

What a stupid thing to do! It's handed Red Ken a very large baseball bat to belabour whichever poor Tory sap it is that stands against him. Oh, I do so hope it's "Shagger" Norris!

wayne bridges

David Cameron and his office monkeys at CCO really need to get off their backsides and get a candidate for next years Mayoral elections!

anon

He's right in one way though - all our prospective candidates are crap apart from Lee Rotherham and Simon Fawthrop who treat the post with the contempt it deserves. Respec'.

James Matthews

"office monkeys"

is the right word for them... what a shambles this Mayoral selection has been.

Editor

Baroness Hanham apparently told the House of Lords "the office of mayor now in this country is the nearest thing we have to a dictator" adding "there is very little that can stop the mayor doing what he wants to do."

Hat-tip: MayorWatch
http://www.mayorwatch.co.uk/article.php?article_id=697

Cllr Nicholas Bennett

I despair. It is up to the voters of London to decide when they have had enough of Livingstone. If they choose to re-elect him then however much we dislike it, that is the democratic will.

Chelloveck

Well, if the arguments hold then clearly it is time to impose a 2 term limit on MP's too.

Paul Kennedy

Is it April 1st. ;)

In a democracy you don't rig the rules because you object to the possible outcome of a vote. If opponents can't put up a candidate who voters think is "better" than the incumbent, and vote accordingly, then that's tough.....just going to have to keep trying.....or more likely wait for the incumbent to retire!

Wellness

Apart from anything else, the idea of term limits coming from an unelected, unlimited, crony-packed house of Lords is vomitworthy.

If we have terms limits for the Mayor, then we should have term limits for everyone else....

Comstock

If there had been a chance of getting this through the HOC, it might have been a different story, but Ken can spin this as-"the Tories are trying to take away your right to vote for me"

I'm sorry, but you really are making a cock up of this

1) You announce a open primary then find there are no suitable candidates
2) You then announce a joint candidate with the Liberals, without consulting them (!)
3) So it's back to the open primary, and your leading contender is exactly the same guy who ran in 2000 and 2004.
4) Now you effectively announce that Ken is unbeatable via the ballot box, and has to be removed via the HoL.

Yet Another Anon

The House of Lords has just accepted an amendment to the Greater London Authority Bill which would limit any mayor to two terms.
Many excellent leaders have served longer than 2 terms, sometimes long serving leaders have been replaced by dreadful people, but the main thing that has to be considered is how inconsistent it would be simply to apply this one position - surely on this issue whether it is decided to limit it to a fixed number of terms or years then the same applies to politicians up and down the country - Mayors, Council Leaders, Prime Minister, Leader of the Opposition perhaps?, First Minister in Devolved Parliaments and Assemblies, maybe MPs, MEPs, even maybe councillors with no leadership roles - the same arguments can be deployed, so they'd better be very sure that they support the underlying principle and are prepared to accept the consequences of the principle being extended, or face the same problems with another piecemeal ad-hoc constitutional change that will be raised every time the Conservative Party complains about the Blair administrations own piecemeal approach to constitutional reform!

Mayoral selection shambles observer

"1) You announce a open primary then find there are no suitable candidates
2) You then announce a joint candidate with the Liberals, without consulting them (!)
3) So it's back to the open primary, and your leading contender is exactly the same guy who ran in 2000 and 2004.
4) Now you effectively announce that Ken is unbeatable via the ballot box, and has to be removed via the HoL."

Comstock: meet Francis Maude

Kevin Davis

Am I hearing it right that the clots who proposed this tabled the wrong amendment and the proposal now is that the "mayor AND the London Assembly" be limited to two terms?

I bet our GLA members are not happy!!

Comstock

Baroness Hanham apparently told the House of Lords "the office of mayor now in this country is the nearest thing we have to a dictator" adding "there is very little that can stop the mayor doing what he wants to do."

Surely the answer here isn't a term limit but more power to the GLA?

Comstock

Sorry,no way to edit that..... I mean the London Assemebly not the GLA

(acronym soup time)

Opinicus

As I have been saying for a year, Ken is unbeatable in terms of personality. We need to beat him on policy. Specifically ask for a referendum to abolish the Mayor and assembly as a waste of money. Force him back to discuss what he has done and what he has actually achieved, which is nothing expensively.

This proposal of term limits, whilst justifiable in a discussion of constitutional theory in a University SCR is rubbish as practical politics, especially as there is no chance of it passing the Commons. So we suffer the political and media pain, without any prospect of a useful result. Madness.

Owen

stupid plan

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